no david hasselhoff for new series

[epc1122]

http://enewsi.com/news.php?catid=191&itemid=13216


here's a link to an article about david hasselhoff not want to be apart of the new show. hasselhoff does not have many nice things to say about the new show and does not want anything to do with it. very unfortunate. hopefully someone can change his mind so he will be willing to come back. if this topic has been mentioned before in a different thread, feel free to merge or delete.

Evan

[PHOENIXZERO]

If that's true, its not good... But I know what he means and I think at least in part that's why things are going to be changed apparently, hopefully for the better.. Unless the show is a total train wreck I doubt he'll actually say no if they ask him to appear especially if it includes a nice payday. I wouldn't be surprised if this got smoothed over before too long because hopefully the people in charge understand that he does need to be involved in some way and make nice with him and sit down for a long talk. There's not a whole lot left as it is to have a real connection to the original series aside from Michael Knight and KITT/William Daniels and he's retired as is Patricia McPhearson pretty much. I doubt there's a huge demand for the return of April or RC3, at least not enough to focus an entire episode or story arc around.

[March2875]

I know this blog from David is a little bit older than that new article but it has a completely different take on the project than that one.

March 1st, 2008
Wow… I am blown away by the response to Knight Rider. Thanks for all your amazing messages of support. I hope I do keep a role in the upcoming show… It was one of my all time favorite parts and it’s great to get back into Michael’s shoes again…

So not many people liked the new car. I loved it. I got to drive it and I loved it. On the original show we got through 27 versions of the Trans Am, though we kept one especially for close up and interior shots. The stunts were quite tough and the car did not always come out in great form. They are being a lot more careful in the new show.

Well… lets hope Knight Rider is going to be back on our screens soon. David

This is from David's new website check it out here http://www.davidhasselhoff.com/

[epc1122]

you know, i do remember a letter from hasselhoff to the fans where he was excited, just like the post above. i think hasselhoff is just trying to get a bigger paycheck. if that's the case, that's to me is pretty messed up.

[Kaine]

hm, i really don't know what to make of it...
first let me say i really liked the new TV movie! though i think what we all agree on is that there are some points that could have been better. we don't know if Hasselhoffs ideas would have made the TV movie closer to what us fans had hoped for. actually we don't even know what Hasselhoff would have made different at all.
while he might actually be angry that he wasn't involved in production, with the other interviews shortly after the showing of KR08 Hasselhoff makes the impression that he just says what the general fan reaction is and plays himself as the messiah, who alone knows the recipe of good Knight Rider and could have done it all much much better, if they had just listened to him.
i just can't come up with an explaination of why he would do this... kinda reminds me of a spoilt little brat that tries to ruin everyone's fun if they don't say and do as he wants them to...

[whet]

In my opion we should just take this with a pinch of salt,
i can't see why Hasselhoff would turn his back on Knight Rider, and he did seem to be all for it in his last blog entry on his website.

i think It's a case of just sit and wait what unfolds. little is known about what we can exspect for the new series at the moment.

over the next few months it will be an interting time to find out.

[PHOENIXZERO]

Yeah, I was thinking he was rather enthusiastic about it even after seeing it and after it aired, it just seems like gossip and I only found two cites with this story, citing WENN as a source. Of course I didn't see anything on WENN's site about it but they seem to cater more to being a service of news for other sites. It seems like this would be more widespread if true. Money probably is a factor, maybe he wants to be a regular in the series and they said no? >_> <_<

[goldbug]

I can think of several scenarios that would play out and make Da Hoff bitter about the movie. However, I think it is an unfortunate choice on his part to express it in this manner. If he has disagreements with the movie (and everyone did), he should use his star power as a guest star with the new producer to get some of his ideas in. Clearly he would have influence and I'm sure the new producer would be more than happy to listen to him.

More to the point, this makes him look bad and flakey because he helped promote the hell out of the thing and as a poster above said, he even put up a very encouraging blog about it on his official site. I'm sure his appearances at the Playboy mansion and so on were contractual, but posting it on his own personal blog probably wasn't so he obviously had some enthusiasm for the project.

Plus, I don't buy the "it wasn't what he thought it would be" schtick. He read the script, he knew the basic premise (hell, by late December/early January we all did). If he had complaints, he should have addressed them then.

I love Da Hoff as a personality, but he has not always been known to be the best decision maker. If I were him, I'd be happy that anyone still wanted me in their movies or shows. It's not like Baywatch is on its fifth spin off or anything. I'd be doing my damndest to charm the new producer/writers into letting me contribute to the new franchise as much as possible - and make a paycheck in the process. Honey and vinegar...

[Kram061-1]

it's a shame. First of all, he's right on all accounts about this new pilot, and second, this isn't the first time this has happened to him with Knight Rider. Remember what happened with Knight Rider 2000, and how he thought it was going to be different (there is an original script floating around on the net somewhere). They were going to do 2 additional movies, so he thought, and they totally screwed that up to. How many times can he get kicked before he gets tired of going back for more.......Hopefully he'll work things out......

[Knight316]

As hard as it might be to do, i think Neil and KRO should try to get an interview with Hoff along the same lines that they've done with all the other cast/crew from the show and Garry Scott Thompson. It would be an excellent read and we can all finally hear what he thought about it, what he thinks they should add, if he'd be a part of it if asked, etc. That would be the coupe of a lifetime for KRO. You could also try to do one with William Daniels to see what his thoughs on it are/were. Could be interesting.

[Sue]

Yes, I think it would be wise for Hasselhoff to call us up and clarify this. My guess is the author of that article is taking the questions and answers out of context. The author was probably saying he or she thought the show was bad and David was just responding to that. From what I see this has only been leaked in Europe. I think American media related publications would be more careful on what claims they make, considering the connections they have in the industry. Also Hasselhoff would be more careful to what he says to American publications; there are a lot of legal issues that could be involved in giving or writing negative press. I think if he really did say all that he is making a big mistake because I think this show has a lot of potential, unlike KR2000. They just need some more money for their special effects and things could be really cool. If David does make a lot of demands for money I’m sure they will just make it with out him, money is tight these days.

[goldbug]

If David does make a lot of demands for money I’m sure they will just make it with out him, money is tight these days.

Agreed. Also, this may force the writers to become more creative instead of relying on Hoff's cameos to "make" an episode. This also allows the storyline to focus more on the new cast and let them come into their own without having to use the past as a crutch.

[goldbug]

How many times can he get kicked before he gets tired of going back for more.......Hopefully he'll work things out......

I have little sympathy or empathy in that regard. He was hired to do a cameo and some publicity, no more, no less. He was given a "Special Guest Star" status and that's all I'm sure his contract specified. At no point during the movie's publicity or in the credits was it indicated he had any type of creative control. He got a job, and he did it. He should be happy people cite him as one of the most positive aspects of the movie and that he got probably paid two times more than many of us make annually for it.

[knightofthephoenix]

I think it would be wise to wait before jumping to any conclusions. I'm sure there will be clarification on this.

Whatever some folks might feel David Hasselhoff, don't forget that the man is a huge Knight Rider fan. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here.

[goldbug]

I think it would be wise to wait before jumping to any conclusions. I'm sure there will be clarification on this.

Most of all, he's human. We all say things we sometimes don't mean or regret later. When you're a celebrity, the risk is also there of your comments being taken out of context. I'm curious to see what clarification there will be on this.

[Lost Knight]

If this article is indeed true (which I'm not entirely convinced of yet, by the way, but I'll presume that it is for now), it seems as if David Hasselhoff is under the same delusions that made him think he could get the motion picture made despite not owning any rights whatsoever. The same rules apply to the television production of which he has no ownership as well. While I certainly can understand how he feels and think he has many valid points, the fact of the matter is that he should know better that none of the producers were required to go along with his ideas.

Furthermore, the script was already written and unable to be changed by the time they even met with Hasselhoff. Due to the writers strike, nothing would have been able to have been changed even if they listened to him, anyway. And most of all, the fact of the matter is that David has no right to be as mad as he is at the producers of the upcoming series. Disappointed? Sure. I can understand it must feel heartbreaking to have great ideas (or ideas that you think are great) only to have them never come to fruition. It appears as if Hasselhoff's ego is overshadowing his judgement on the situation. We would all love to see him return as Michael Knight (even if it doesn't happen again until the first season finale), and I believe it will be a matter of time before Hasselhoff gets a better grip on the situation and realizes that he doesn't want to be completely shut out of any Knight Rider projects, let alone disappoint the legion of fans who have been waiting years for his return.

If this series does a 180 and becomes fun and successful like the original series, you can bet that Hasselhoff is definitely going to wish he had in on it.

[Victor Kros]

I agree with Lost Knight. David has these patterns where he thinks his ego entitles him to step outside his boundries with Knight Rider and it appears the same thing is occuring with the television series. He really needs to understand how creative control really works and how it applies to actors and their characters they portray.

=VK=

[knightofthephoenix]

I agree with Lost Knight. David has these patterns where he thinks his ego entitles him to step outside his boundries with Knight Rider and it appears the same thing is occuring with the television series. He really needs to understand how creative control really works and how it applies to actors and their characters they portray.

=VK=

IF this turns out to be the case.

[ilana]

...David has no right to be as mad as he is at the producers of the upcoming series.

(If the article is true) David is angry because the producers PROMISED to work with him, if he helps them to promote the series. He helped. And they said they do not have a part for him. It calls fraud. But you all guys would support the liers, if it's true.

[goldbug]

(If the article is true) David is angry because the producers PROMISED to work with him, if he helps them to promote the series. He helped. And they said they do not have a part for him. It calls fraud. But you all guys would support the liers, if it's true.

It's not fraud if they never contractually bound themselves to accept his ideas, and had they done that he would have (at the very least) received a "Creative Consultant" type credit. He was hired to do a cameo and promotion - during the time leading up to the movie airing it was never said he would get script approval or anything of the sort. I see no fraud here, and if there was a legal fraud (meaning he had a contract which said they would give him creative control but they didn't follow through) then he can sue in a court of law.

[KITTfan]

I think one thing has been forgotten in this conversation, didn't Hasselhoff turned one tv-series called Baywatch a huge success being behind and in front of the camera? I think his ideas about Knight Rider should be listened because he's the original "Knight Rider" and also knows how to make even completely different tv-show succesful.
The writer's strike of course made it impossible to make any changes to the pilot but in the series I think Hasselhoff's ideas would be very valuable.

[Knight316]

There was just a snippet about this on TV Guide's website in teh Mega Minute. They said that Hoff and proucuers are at on opposite sides on the spectrum on his "on camera" involvement. "He wants alot, they want next to none" were the exact quotes used. Take that for what it's worth but TV Guide is usually pretty good with getting the inside scoop. Here's the link to it.

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry ... /800039234

[knightprobe89]

i think its really screwed up that the producers dont want the hoff to have any on screen involvement in the new series, he is suppose to be the father of mike tracer, i think without a hasselhoff involvement the series is doomed to fail, he is the only link left from the original knight rider and he needs to be a part of the series, i personally think he should be the new boss of flag, he could be the new devon miles, that would be aewsome. leave it to nbc to screw things up!!!

[PHOENIXZERO]

I expected that possibly being a reason but as I said in another topic. I think he's too unreliable to be a regular unless he's completely cleaned up and sober, it's not going to happen. Plus I think he'd work better in a limited role anyway. Have the Michael Knight (and KITT) appearances mean something and be special, not just be another regular cast member who you see every week.

[ilana]

It's not fraud if they never contractually bound themselves to accept his ideas, and had they done that he would have (at the very least) received a "Creative Consultant" type credit. He was hired to do a cameo and promotion - during the time leading up to the movie airing it was never said he would get script approval or anything of the sort. I see no fraud here, and if there was a legal fraud (meaning he had a contract which said they would give him creative control but they didn't follow through) then he can sue in a court of law.

They obviously did not sign any contracts, except the one about the cameo. But...

The producers knew that there would not be any Hasselhoff appearances in the movie. They wanted to make their very own TV-series, which, as we see, did not have any serious connection with the original. But they did not clearly explained it to David. (Otherwise, he would not does any promotion and help them.) Instead they obviously made some hints about his future involvements and that they want to stay true to the classic show. Remember, they said it to the audience, too!
When the pilot series was finished and David did his work, they excplained they does not need him any more. It is not something you can sue. But it's a fraud. And I'm sure that made him angry.

I think one thing has been forgotten in this conversation, didn't Hasselhoff turned one tv-series called Baywatch a huge success being behind and in front of the camera? I think his ideas about Knight Rider should be listened because he's the original "Knight Rider" and also knows how to make even completely different tv-show succesful.
The writer's strike of course made it impossible to make any changes to the pilot but in the series I think Hasselhoff's ideas would be very valuable.
I think one thing has been forgotten in this conversation, didn't Hasselhoff turned one tv-series called Baywatch a huge success being behind and in front of the camera? I think his ideas about Knight Rider should be listened because he's the original "Knight Rider" and also knows how to make even completely different tv-show succesful.
The writer's strike of course made it impossible to make any changes to the pilot but in the series I think Hasselhoff's ideas would be very valuable.

It's exactly what I wanted to say. Hasselhoff is a professional. He has been working for 40 years in the bisness. He was one of the biggest reason of the success of Knight Rider, he knows everything about the show. He deserves respect, at least. I'm sure that his involvement would just make the show better.
If he decides to leave the show, I support him.