KITT's 'Birth'

KnightCrusader99 · Post by **KnightCrusader99** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:45 pm

Hey everyone, I was watching Goliath Returns again and realized that KITT said that he first came online in a mainframe in Washington. That was really odd, I always assumed KITT was created at the labs at Knight Industries. Hmmm...that means KITT's program process had to be halted and copied over to his own CPU to be put in the car.

Just another thing new I learned and can add to my vast knowledge of KR facts. Just thought I would point it out to everyone else.

-Steve

Knight Racer · Post by **Knight Racer** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 2:20 am

What scene is that betwen what and what?

Army_F_Body · Post by **Army_F_Body** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:32 am

I believe it states in one episode that he was originally designed for military applications, but it didn't really suit him. So that could be Washington DC where he was programmed.

KnightCrusader99 · Post by **KnightCrusader99** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:38 am

It was the scene where the scientist and his niece are in the car the first time with Michael and KITT is explaining his start. It is as Michael is taking them back to the hotel and dropping them off, and I think it is right after the scene where Garth is talking about taking care of the 'insult to his existance' and Adrianne is telling him to get over it. It is near the beginning on the two part.

That is odd that KITT was developed for military use, I always assumed that he was developed by Knight Industries for use in the K2000 Car, as an updated and 'fixed' version of the AI after the KARR mishap.

-Steve

FuzzieDice · Post by **FuzzieDice** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:02 am

Remember, Tonya and gang were after Wilton so he had to hide quick, and get Michael, but Michael was near killed so even KITT being built as Devon said, was a rush job at first. So Devon probably got ahold of a friend who was able to get KITT's AI to them as a quick effort, since all Knight Industries actually had was KARR's AI which was known to be a failure and so they had no hope to reprogram it.

But, it IS interesting that KITT turned out so altruistic for a military AI and KARR didn't but was not created for military use.

Devon also said something that Wilton was approached by the military over KARR but he refused because he didn't believe in violence.

It just is an inconsistancy. I too can't see how KITT could have been developed for military use. Maybe it's this:

KARR was develop for non-violent use, but it wasn't "him" - didn't suit his personality.

Meanwhile, KITT was developed for violent use, but it didn't suite "him". KITT luckily got a home which fit his actual personality. KARR didn't get so lucky, because Wilton refused.

Or something...

Lost Knight · Post by **Lost Knight** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:39 am

It sounds like a case of PCR (Post-Creative Rationalization) where new story elements are made up and added later in the series. Unfortunately this method usually leads to inconsistencies with previously established facts in many television shows.

I'll have to check the episode out myself to see what they're talking about. Nice catch!

ad227529 · Post by **ad227529** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:43 am

most inconsistancies i can deal with. however the one i still cannot forgive, was April. worst mistake of the series (almost tied with SPM)

theevolved1 · Post by **theevolved1** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:07 am

yeah I can think of a 2 whole series that PCR...

Team Knight Rider and Star Trek: Enterprise

Army_F_Body · Post by **Army_F_Body** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:10 am

The novelization for Trust Doesn't Rust states that KARR was developed as a new war tool after Vietnam ended. However, as the 70s dragged on Wilton decided he was of more use at home. According to that novelization KARR was in developement for quite some time. Makes since that KITT went quicker as most of the worked had already been done on KARR.

The novelization doesn't count as cannon, but it does offer more insight into KITT and KARR than the series did.

Lost Knight · Post by **Lost Knight** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:47 am

I wonder what the original concept vehicle for K.A.R.R. was going to be. Obviously since KARR's systems were still being conceptualized in the 70s, Wilton Knight couldn't have imagined him in an '82 Trans Am. From the sound of things it seems like his A.I. was to be incorporated into a tank. Hmm...

Army_F_Body · Post by **Army_F_Body** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:20 pm

I've oftened wondered about that myself.

I always thought KARR should have been built into a Bandit T/A rather than an 82 like KITT, but it was cheaper to make him just like KITT.

I imagine according to the novel that KARR was intended for a tank or other fighting vehicle. That would be kind of cool.

FuzzieDice · Post by **FuzzieDice** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:28 pm

I just saw Goliath Returns last night and noticed KITT never mentioned he was used for 'military' use. Just that he was actually came online in a mainframe in Washington and that the "government beaurocracy" didn't suit him. It could be he could have been an AI computer at first to handle government payroll checks, or disability forms or other things of that nature, and maybe not even military use at all. Or might even been used as a central information system like the IRMA computer on Race For Life. They kinda left that vague, which probably was a good thing.

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