How to best solve the Knight Rider Movie problem...
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After thinking about it, I think they should acknowledge some things that happened in KR2000, most notably Devon's death, KITT beng dismantled, and Michael temporarily coming back to the Foundation. I did love KR2000 for the parts that truly did seem to be "Knight Rider." Going back and re-watching scenes like Devon going to see Michael at the lake and recruiting him again, Michael's reunion with KITT as he's rebuilding him, Michael and KITT's usual love-hate antics, Michael reacting to Devon's death and Michael finally going back to FLAG because he knows he's needed were truly memorable moments in KR history. My final suggestion I think is to just sidestep the FLAG office in Seattle, never mention Shawn or Maddock again, somehow get KITT back out of the tomato on wheels body without having to explain KR2000 (maybe have KITT be redismantled and Michael finds him that way again), and definitely forget all of the predictions made during KR2000's timeline.
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I don't understand why they couldn't do this in the new movie totally independent of KR2K... yeah, it might seem like reinventing the wheel, but you're asking the general public to recall the events of a TV movie from 12 years ago that many of us haven't seen in ages -- and we're the die-hard fans!
There's no reason that the movie couldn't somehow mention that Devon died in the span of time between 1986 and 2003 (or '04, or '05), Michael retired, and KITT was dismantled, but now something has happened that brought Michael back, and he has to put KITT back together again in order to go about his mission.
It's just my opinion, but KR2K carries too much baggage for it to be of any use to a storyline in a KR movie. It's the future predictions and Seattle and KIFT and Shawn and Maddock and everything... you're trying to take a little bit from Column A and a bit from Column B, but I just don't see it working that well.
There's no reason that the movie couldn't somehow mention that Devon died in the span of time between 1986 and 2003 (or '04, or '05), Michael retired, and KITT was dismantled, but now something has happened that brought Michael back, and he has to put KITT back together again in order to go about his mission.
It's just my opinion, but KR2K carries too much baggage for it to be of any use to a storyline in a KR movie. It's the future predictions and Seattle and KIFT and Shawn and Maddock and everything... you're trying to take a little bit from Column A and a bit from Column B, but I just don't see it working that well.
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How about some references towards TKR, KR2010 and Dalton?
Just for variety. You can have paratroopers dropping from a Galaxy, coming to attack, then a Banshee lookalike fighting against KITT, a notorious criminal named Jason McQueen and a brief appearance by David Dalton (He'd make a better partner for Michael than Shawn!).
Just for variety. You can have paratroopers dropping from a Galaxy, coming to attack, then a Banshee lookalike fighting against KITT, a notorious criminal named Jason McQueen and a brief appearance by David Dalton (He'd make a better partner for Michael than Shawn!).
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KR2000 was San Antonio, not Seattle.
And you can have all those things happen (KITT being dismantled, Michael leaving the Foundation, Devon's death) without having them happen within the KR2000 timeline. Just come up with new reasons to explain what happened. As soon as you specifically bring KR2000 into the mix, you have to explain everything else that goes along with it. It's too much baggage.
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(edit: after going back and actually reading the thread, I realize I basically repeated what JL just said. He must be very wise.)
And you can have all those things happen (KITT being dismantled, Michael leaving the Foundation, Devon's death) without having them happen within the KR2000 timeline. Just come up with new reasons to explain what happened. As soon as you specifically bring KR2000 into the mix, you have to explain everything else that goes along with it. It's too much baggage.
Mike
(edit: after going back and actually reading the thread, I realize I basically repeated what JL just said. He must be very wise.)
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Mike--How do you know KR2000 took place in San Antonio? I always assumed it was Seattle because of the opening scene where Devon, Maddock, the Commissoner, the Mayor, etc. are having that conference and Maddock oes to the window and you can clearly see the Space Needle from there. Maddock even makes a remark about it. Just curious.
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That isn't actually the Space Needle, it's the Tower of the Americas. You can find out more information about it, and other locations in KR2000 from Scott's Website:
http://kr2k.com/locations.html
http://kr2k.com/locations.html
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The Two Towers:
Considering how famous the Space Needle is I assumed it was much taller. But after checking I found out it's "only" 603 feet, vs. San Antonio's 728 foot tower. (You could stack those two towers on top of eachother and they'd still look small next to Toronto's 1,851 foot CN Tower.)
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Considering how famous the Space Needle is I assumed it was much taller. But after checking I found out it's "only" 603 feet, vs. San Antonio's 728 foot tower. (You could stack those two towers on top of eachother and they'd still look small next to Toronto's 1,851 foot CN Tower.)
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Actually, there is a medium in here. The script had them in Seattle, but the location that they managed to get was San Antonio and Corpus Christi, Texas.
There are scenes in KR2K that are most certainly San Antonio, (the riverwalk) but the original writer's intentions had them placed in Seattle.
Confused writers. Yet another symptom of 'little dog reunion movie syndrome"
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There are scenes in KR2K that are most certainly San Antonio, (the riverwalk) but the original writer's intentions had them placed in Seattle.
Confused writers. Yet another symptom of 'little dog reunion movie syndrome"
KI
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Seattle was the "in" city in the 90s (Starbucks, Frasier) so I could understand them wanting Knight Rider 2000 to take place there. But the only script I've seen (Knight Rider Archive) doesn't mention a specific city as far as I can tell. Is there another script out there? I like seeing the evolution in the writing process.
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yes, we do rule. don't forget austin powers, the spy who shagged me. dr. evil's lair was in the space needle. (with starbucks in the windows)Michael Pajaro wrote:Seattle was the "in" city in the 90s (Starbucks, Frasier).
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they showed it in the beginning, in the 90s. in the 60s was his secret hollowed out volcano lair.
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Yes, a nice action adventure movie. How bout it start off in the year 2000 where Michael is called out of retirement and KITT has been dismantled since he left in 1990. Devon has died sometime in the mid-90's. Well, Michael goes after a criminal commiting a major heist the law cannot stop. But he gets away during a big attack and keeps himself in suspended animation thinking he will roam again when Michael is long gone.
But the government keeps Michael in cryogenic sleeping for the next few years. When the criminal comes out, he starts commiting crimes again thinking Michael is old and not far from the end of his days. It is the future and the world has changed quite a bit. But the law still isn't able to stop this criminal and Michael is woken up. He is the only one who knows the old fashioned ways to trap this guy. F.L.A.G. makes up a new KITT which is twice as much powerful.
P.S. Arnold Schwarzenegger is president during this futuristic period.
But the government keeps Michael in cryogenic sleeping for the next few years. When the criminal comes out, he starts commiting crimes again thinking Michael is old and not far from the end of his days. It is the future and the world has changed quite a bit. But the law still isn't able to stop this criminal and Michael is woken up. He is the only one who knows the old fashioned ways to trap this guy. F.L.A.G. makes up a new KITT which is twice as much powerful.
P.S. Arnold Schwarzenegger is president during this futuristic period.
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Thanks ColeGrad01, I'm getting this horrible mental picture of the new KR movie turning into "Demolition Man," with Michael playing Sly Stallone's role now! LOL
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You knew exactly what I was thinking while typing that out. You read my mind. But DEMOLITION MAN does it that the future turns into some pussy world. I want it that it looks like the year 2030 in the modern TIME MACHINE. Only everyone is not riding bicycles. And we still haven't developed colonization on the moon.
In order for Arnold to actually be president, it would have to be like around 2015 and 2018. Michael is kept in a cryogenic capsule for about 10 or 12 years. While he is out, the Congress passed a new ammendment allowing a non-Native to run for presidency. Therefore, Arnold runs and gets elected as a result of his wonderful job as governor.
All you would see is him making a speech on a TV screen. When Michael wakes up and asks who's president, they tell him and he doesn't believe it. Just like when Marty McFly told Dr. Brown in BACK TO THE FUTURE that Ronald Reagan is president in 1985. This is only an idea for a movie. It does not affect what will actually happen in real life.
In order for Arnold to actually be president, it would have to be like around 2015 and 2018. Michael is kept in a cryogenic capsule for about 10 or 12 years. While he is out, the Congress passed a new ammendment allowing a non-Native to run for presidency. Therefore, Arnold runs and gets elected as a result of his wonderful job as governor.
All you would see is him making a speech on a TV screen. When Michael wakes up and asks who's president, they tell him and he doesn't believe it. Just like when Marty McFly told Dr. Brown in BACK TO THE FUTURE that Ronald Reagan is president in 1985. This is only an idea for a movie. It does not affect what will actually happen in real life.
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Yeah. Hopefully it won't be. They will just carry the story on in the present day. That's just what the story would be if I was doing it. If Arnold can't be president in real life, then at least he could in the movies. That wouldn't hurt anything. Right now it's the only way he ever could.
But a Knight Rider story should scratch the deal with Knight Rider 2000 and just do something taking place in the present.
But a Knight Rider story should scratch the deal with Knight Rider 2000 and just do something taking place in the present.
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You get the feeling that somebody is hung up on the Arnold as President idea to the pont of over obsession?
As for the movie problem, they need to come up with an alternate way to describe Edward Mulhare's death, try to ignore KR2K as much as possible (same with TKR) and try to go from the original series as much as possible. Move Michael up into the administrative position, it could be a side note of comedic humor to see him grousing over the whole paperwork concept, and trying to sneak out and live the old times with his partner, while the newness is trying to adjust to the job.
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As for the movie problem, they need to come up with an alternate way to describe Edward Mulhare's death, try to ignore KR2K as much as possible (same with TKR) and try to go from the original series as much as possible. Move Michael up into the administrative position, it could be a side note of comedic humor to see him grousing over the whole paperwork concept, and trying to sneak out and live the old times with his partner, while the newness is trying to adjust to the job.
KI