Knight Rider Season 3 Reviews and General comments

[LMolineux]

Now i found another INTRO screwup. Knight Of The Chamilion or however its spelled the sound effects in the intro are void.

WOW is this EP missing alot of sound effects not sure if this has been pointed out yet.

[FuzzieDice]

I just noticed something. On the DVDs I have, they all play the episode right away without any teaser/intros. Am I missing something or do I have to look in the options and set someting?

[spyhunter]

All I know is the season premier doesn't have a teaser, I thought it was going to, but the first footage where they show KITTs eyes opening was AWESOME!

And then it was awesome to see the opening credits after the prison break! I almost forgot about the credits until they played!

Kind of surprised that they show the new dash in the credits before everyone gets to see it, but I guess that's how it was... They should have done one like S4 did by not showing SPM until it was introduced in the show...

Did anyone notice after they defeat KARR that there is a big speck of dirt on the screen right over Michaels face? This was not in the original, what a shame that a remastering would cause this and they didn't even notice... Aw well, still nice to finally have the whole episode on DVD! That was the most saught after...

Now all we need is the Scent of Roses!

SH

[MLAM]

MLAM yes its an old song yes but its been replaced in this release.

Well if that song has been replaced then its more than 2 songs that are different from the orginal broadcast then isn't it, are you sure your not mistaken?

Dont take that as an insult but no one else has seems to have spotted it so far.

I hopefully will get mine soon once it gets shipped.

[whet]

I have spotted something that I don't think has been mentioned.

In "Knight of the drones" Where Red Corvette by Prince has been deleted from the sound track.

Listen carefully where the scene of CJ Jackson and Peter Wong are in the tunnel.

for about a second or so you can actually hear a faint bit of the song.

I had to replay it to make sure I wasn't imagining it.

But listen real close and you should hear it.

[Lauzzy81]

Well like i posted in another Thread.
Knight of The Drones the "INTRO IS NOT THE REAL INTRO" The Themed Intro is the dubbed in Regular Season 3 intro not the one which was used for real for this episode. Has anyone else run into this?

I've just found one of my old vhs tapes with The Knight Of The Drones on! Last time Knight Rider was broudcast here in Denmark was back in 1997/98 and they aired all the 2 parters after they aired the other episodes! But I've taped the Knight Of The Drones episodes and it has the regular Season 3 Opening! But if there really exist a other intro, I would really like to see it

[Deferranfan1]

I wish there were some better pictures of KARR out on the net. Anyone know where there are some good ones?

[knightrules]

So I guess the two songs that may be gone are the Prince song from Drones and the Billy Idol song from Dead/Knight.

At least they left Torture from the opening of Drones.

For Season 4, I hope the New Edition clan is on board with their music and equally their appearance. **wink**

[spyhunter]

I have spotted something that I don't think has been mentioned.

In "Knight of the drones" Where Red Corvette by Prince has been deleted from the sound track.

Listen carefully where the scene of CJ Jackson and Peter Wong are in the tunnel.

for about a second or so you can actually hear a faint bit of the song.

I had to replay it to make sure I wasn't imagining it.

But listen real close and you should hear it.

Now that you mention it, I heard the same thing, but I remember hearing it as they are showing a back room leading down to the tunnel, anyway I thought it was my ears deceiving me because if they removed the song track then you wouldn't think that there would be any trace of it on the existing audio track... Weird...

I didn't relisten to it like I should have...

Another thing that is strange is the amount of bass in that piece, I thought at first it was the dancers feet banging on the floor, but if you have a sub on your system, you'd know that it is very loud, it could even be the bass to the song?

SH

[Skav]

Spyhunter,

I also had an idea that the thumping could have been the beat of the song as well but I put it more down to the dancers feet clunking on the floor.

If they have left traces of the song in there, doesn't it mean Universal are doing a sloppy job here because they are not really caring about the risk of being sued for the sake of getting the job over with.

[KFCreator]

I finally got my hands on a copy of Season 3 at a local Circuit City yesterday for $34.99. They didn't have any of them out on the sales floor at all, I had to ask a girl in the stock room if they had any copies and she pulled one from a shelf in that room. Costco surprisingly didn't have any Season 3 sets but that may be because it was just released a few days ago. They may get copies in in the next couple of weeks.

So far I've only watched "Junkyard Dog" and I LOVED seeing it uncut for the first time! I am certain that nothing was deleted from that episode and when I get a chance, I'll watch the rest and see if I can help spot any more deleted songs or sound FX or whatnot.

I find it curious that Universal deleted sound FX from some episodes. I can understand deleting some original songs due to licensing issues with the music artists but why would they delete sound FX? I think that's a pretty crappy thing for Universal to do and if it turns out more episodes have been tampered with in the same way, us fans ought to lodge formal complaints to Universal about it.

[suprdav2]

To me, it just seems like total overall sound seems off. Maybe it's just me....but the background music sounds louder at times than normal.

[Knight Rider Archive]

Skav wrote
I also had an idea that the thumping could have been the beat of the song as well but I put it more down to the dancers feet clunking on the floor.

The thumping is more likely an off-screen stagehand letting the dancers know the beat and tempo of the song that will be inserted into the scene later on. It is very uncommon that the music we hear in the episodes was even known by the actors on the set, unless scripted (and those songs weren't). It's a standard practice.

[James_kr]

have you noticed just how many times at the start of knight of the drones before kitt has his new dash you can see inside him and the new dash is mysteriously there.

[Skav]

Paul, you are right about that.

I guess we will never know what it truly is as some people have even said they can still hear the song faintly.

Whatever the case, Universal didn't exactly do a bang up job in my eyes.

[Knight Rider Archive]

I totally agree. It's a big disappointment. The irony is, the versions Universal will be broadcasting on their new HD-TV channels will probably be nice clean editions of the originals, with all the original music and sound effects. Yet if we are to pay top dollar to own the collection on Universal-released DVDs, we are getting a sub-standard product.

Note: I thought the Season 1 release was outstanding. It's a shame they never followed through with the later seasons...

[whet]

It does make me wonder why they don't make more effort for the DVD.

After all its not doing the best to stop illegal pirated discs etc that are constantly on e bay.

Some people might think is it worth paying for the official set when things are screwed with?

A shame all the time we have waited and they have messed with them.

I have only got up to "knights of the fast lane" so can't comment on the rest of them.

See what I think when I do.

[kitt1987]

Well I've only watched the first 40 minutes of this and am so far impressed by the quality.
My only gripe is the intro. They attached a regular 3rd season intro at the beginning and I know for a fact that they had a "unique" one for this premier just like they had one for the 4th season premier. I still have it on VHS and now I feel like I really have to hold on to the tape...still have the complete series that I taped off television all those years ago and was going to dump them now that the dvds are out.
The "correct" intro does not reveal ANYthing about KITT's new dash at all. It's a blend of scenes and shots from the 3rd season as well as bits from the 1st and 2nd seasons as well. If I can somehow get it 'digitized' I'll be happy to upload or something somehow for all to see.
But besides the two songs the wrong intro is the other thing non-original on this set. Otherwise the set is perfect in my opinion.

[imranbecks]

Still wating for mine to arrive..

[spyhunter]

I rewatched Drones again, and the faint sound of the music is while the guys start talking, but it is hard to tell if it is 'Little Red Corvette' or not, I would have to watch them side by side to determine that...

The sad thing in this set is the bonus of Rising Sun, why choose that one? Just about every other episode in S4 was better than that, wouldn't it be best to choose one of the better ones or Scent of Roses?

Also it is sad as Paul has noted that it is not in Stereo sound, I mean that is the very least they could do with the audio, is leave it freakin' intact... But there are probably people not familiar with the series working on it, and assume that they were just all made in Mono...

They also need to clip that awful SPM shutdown shot of the rear wing coming down with the tire stationary while they are cruising at 200+MPH...

It's possible that they will do more work with S4, however with the release date only a few months away and the inclusion of the episode, they probably will not do any more work with it, in fact, they may already have the completed product just awaiting release...

What they should've done is just release both seasons together like Sliders Seasons 1&2, but at a discounted price, if it was already completed...

SH

[Skav]

I was disappointed by the choice of 'Rising Sun' too but to include such an epic episode in 'Scent of Roses' would have blown one of the major twists of a major character in Michael's life ie stevie dying.

So I think they made the right choice not to include at least that one, however, I agree about the sound.

I think it was pure laziness again...being that the S3 episodes are mono so they couldn't be bothered to put the bonus season 4 episode into stereo because of that fact...it was just a bonus feature.

Actually, I'm pretty optomistic that the season 4 episodes will be in stereo since Universal will know how this season was (surely?) and just convert it.

After all, there's not much more work to do for mastering episodes in stereo than mono.

Just a shame I'm not more positive about KOTJ's original pre-credits being there.

[spyhunter]

I guess we'll cross our fingers that it will be in stereo, but when it comes to so many nostalgic things, it seems like they use people that either are clueless about the work, or they are not that much of a fan to care...

It happens so many times with classic arcade games that they bring into today, there are so many problems that a fan could easily spot and correct, but that never happens and they don't seem to care the slightest bit that they are trampling all over people's important memories...

SH

[whet]

"Lost Knight" is the most disappointing so far with the miss sound fx.

They do see bunched together the part where Doug presses he eject button even when he shuts the door no clunk, and then of course the turbo boost over the ravine.

But later on after the commercial tag, you do hear the beep of the evade button also the clunk of the door later still just before he is captured and then later on After Kit gets his new memory and the final turbo boost takes place.

I wonder if the missing sound fx are just part of the clumsiness on the part of whoever made the transfer onto DVD?

Wouldn't they have an original master copy and then have to add affects after?



Also is it just me or does the picture have a slight blue tint from time to time?

Maybe it's just something with age of the original martial, or because I am not used to seeing in such a sharp clear format?

Having said that I didn't notice it in the first 2 season sets.

Maybe It is just me!

[spyhunter]

I know I'm beginning to sound like an old record but there are also sound effects missing in 'Lost Knight'.

It's just silent during the scene where Doug tests the eject button. You neither hear the beep of the button being pressed or the ball shooting out of the seat.

When Doug's bag goes in the air and KITT says: "It's rather remarcable, isn't it?", is that short synth "music" in the background still there?

No, it's just dead silence during the part. I was quite disappointed with this when you put that together with the other stuff that was either changed or left out.

Ah, I just watched the eppy and the synth sound is there, there is also kind of a strange sound when the bag gets ejected but the button press and the autoroof sounds are missing...

Also the turbo boost over the ravine has turbo boost sound, just no button press sound...

SH

[spyhunter]

**WOW**

KNIGHT OF THE CHAMELEON is missing all of the intro SFX and the Turbo Boost near the beginning of the show is missing not only the button press but all of KITTs engine sounds leading up to and after which spans close to a minute, they really messed this one up...

I guess not too many people have noticed this one because it is one of the duller episodes of S3...

SH

P.S. That Universal Logo is so annoying, I noticed they've even removed the classic one from these episodes for some odd reason, they usually leave the classic ones in, in addition to the newer one...

Anyway, Universal really needs a new logo, this one has been around since at least '97 and after hearing it a million times, it's become so annoying... I so wish they would go back to the music from the last one like in 1990 before Back To The Future III, it's so much more enjoyable, but I'm sure with their money they could come up with one even better and not so unpleasant as their current one...