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Post by Cuda426440 » Wed Jan 22, 2003 12:31 pm

Do you think that KARR should be back in the KR movie?

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Post by Army_F_Body » Wed Jan 22, 2003 12:58 pm

Definately. He's one of the most reconizable villians in the series. It would be easier to use a bad guy everyone is already familiar with. Some one brought up in another thread, that if someone like cameran zachary was used it would take to much time to explain who he is and his role. Karr's an easy on one to explain. He's Kitt's evil twin!
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Post by knightimmortal » Wed Jan 22, 2003 1:05 pm

This is one we have explained before:

The answer is actually no. Because you would still have to explain the history of KARR in further detail, and have to cover territory from the series which may take away from the movie itself. Rehashing territory is not necessarily the best idea for the new fans that this movie is going to try to recruit. Some mention might be nice, but resurrecting KARR is something that many in the past have felt would be best left to fan fic.

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Post by neps » Wed Jan 22, 2003 1:41 pm

this movie is gonna require exposition. Too much exposition just brings the story to a halt unless they merge it all into one piece. exposition to explain kitt is easy, because it can be done in the beginning of the film before the story gets along, ala Lord of the Rings first movie opener. Bringing KARR into the mix would require more exposition right when people are gearing into the movie, or it can be combined with the original starters "The battle between good and evil will be fought here today..."

No, as much as it would be cool to see the old good fighting the old bad, they'll need to update the villains in order to have a successful movie. Hopefully not generic evil bad guy who has plans for world domination like many of the Bond films. But it will probably be that because its getting harder and harder for hollywood, it seems, to have a believable villain. Too many types have all been done before.

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Post by Rockatteer » Thu Jan 23, 2003 4:11 am

Thats assuming the movie carries on or is an extension from the TV show.

It could be that they might re make the original pilot of the show...just change it to make it up to date with todays technology and ideas.

Or they might restart a new knight rider time line as Star Trek keeps doing... new charectoers and the first fils explains how they get there etc etc...

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Post by neps » Thu Jan 23, 2003 7:37 am

the first "fils" explains what? if you mean the first film, none of the Star Trek keeps re-doing the time line, except perhaps Enterprise since that takes place in any one of the series past.

Regardless of if the movie is an extension of the show or a recreation of the plot, car in the mix would be too much to throw at people. Specially if they remake the pilot, a whole lot of back story there.

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Post by Army_F_Body » Thu Jan 23, 2003 5:04 pm

The first movies of a series usually have a lot of explaining to do. Take the first Batman. It had to explain the origins of the Batman and Joker. I thought the origin explanations of the Spider-man movie were a little slow, but not everyone is familiar with the source material. KR would to some extent have to explain some things to the viewer. Or Karr could just appear as Kahn did in 'Star Trek II' and just force the movie goers to check out the orignal episodes to figure out where the heck Karr came from.
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Post by KITTvsKARR » Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:02 pm

Well, as someone said they would have to update technology.. what about having the guy that deactivated KARR to steal his CPU from the Foundation's vault and rebuild KARR better than ever? That wouldn't take long to explain...
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Post by knightimmortal » Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:11 pm

Yes, it would, because you would have to explain what KARR is, in the first place, you would have to review the last two confrontations, and then you would have to explain how a fan fiction concept got into KR.

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Post by KITTvsKARR » Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:17 pm

Well.. look how they brought in Garth.. no one knew him.. just all of a sudden they said he was a bad guy who is Wilton's son... all they would have to say is that KARR was KITT's prototype that was believed to be destroyed by KITT and Michael so long ago... etc...
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Post by Michael Pajaro » Sat Jan 25, 2003 7:31 pm

Ah, but they DIDN'T just suddenly bring Garth in. There was an entire season of episodes explaining KITT, Michael, Devon, the Foundation, etc. that set up the environment for Garth to enter. If Garth appeared in the pilot or even the 2nd episode, he would not have been a good villian because we didn't really get to know the heroes yet.

I think that putting KARR in the movie would just be lazy. It's would be a cheap way to try to satisfy a relatively small number of harcore fans. They'd be much better off creatively if they try to look forward, not backward.

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Post by KITTvsKARR » Sat Jan 25, 2003 7:33 pm

Hmm.. that is a good point.. but in actuallity, It could go either way.. there are lots of people that want to see min return.. and just as many that don't... so all in all its up to David and the writers.
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Post by Michael Pajaro » Sat Jan 25, 2003 7:45 pm

One of the "problems" with this board is that it doesn't represent the average movie-goer. If you asked 100 people if they remember Knight Rider, I bet 90-95 of them could tell you something about a show. If you asked them "what was the name of the evil car in Knight Rider?", I'd be surprised if 3 of them could answer correctly. So bringing KARR back only appeals to a very small portion of the public.

To look at it another way... The people who would be excited about seeing KARR in the movie are the people who are going to see the movie anyway, so KARR doesn't add much appeal.

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Post by knightimmortal » Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:34 pm

Not to mention, you can get away with a whole lot more in a TV Series than a Movie, where it is pretty much do or die.

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Post by March2875 » Sun Jan 26, 2003 8:26 am

Plus they are gonna have enough trouble explaining who Michael and Kitt are in the movie to a new generation of moviegoers much less one of their enemies.

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Post by K.I.T.T » Sun Jan 26, 2003 11:44 am

I dont think explaining Michael or KITT would be such a big problem...just the concept of explaining others...eg Micheals evil twin and kitts...and there backgrounds and how they have got to where they are today....if the movie was a mamouth like Titanic was then they would have the time...but i cant see people sitting that long i nthe movies.......(I took Titainc as an example cause i know how long it wasi know theres many others)

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