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So new K.I.3.T isn't original K.I.T.T.?

Post by Phoenix » Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:34 pm

I'm a little confused here as the pilot/t.v. movie implied the new K.I.3.T was the original. They showed the original K.I.T.T. transam in the t.v. movie. So I assumed orignal K.I.T.T. was updated (new voice, etc.) and put into the new car.

So if new K.I.3.T. isn't the original where is the original K.I.T.T.?

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Re: So new K.I.3.T isn't original K.I.T.T.?

Post by Faithful Car KRO » Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:55 pm

Phoenix wrote:I'm a little confused here as the pilot/t.v. movie implied the new K.I.3.T was the original. They showed the original K.I.T.T. transam in the t.v. movie. So I assumed orignal K.I.T.T. was updated (new voice, etc.) and put into the new car.

So if new K.I.3.T. isn't the original where is the original K.I.T.T.?

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Re: So new K.I.3.T isn't original K.I.T.T.?

Post by Lost Knight » Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:59 pm

Phoenix wrote:I'm a little confused here as the pilot/t.v. movie implied the new K.I.3.T was the original. They showed the original K.I.T.T. transam in the t.v. movie. So I assumed orignal K.I.T.T. was updated (new voice, etc.) and put into the new car.

So if new K.I.3.T. isn't the original where is the original K.I.T.T.?

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It is believed that that was the original intention but that the idea was scrapped and the Knight 3000 and Knight 2000 are separate entities. As the Knight 2000's remains were scattered in the garage, it's clear that some kind of cannibalization was apparently going on, but as there were also 3 other vehicles in the garage besides the Knight 3000, it's anyone's guess what Charles Graiman was doing. But this much is certain: the Knight 3000 is an entirely different vehicle.
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Re: So new K.I.3.T isn't original K.I.T.T.?

Post by triran » Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:00 am

Whats to say that Dr Graiman wasn't using the AI and parts from KI2T for that huge spider thing in the pilot and KI2T may of been his computer help build KI3T. When the s*** hits the fan, he goes back and rebuilds KI2T with that technology?

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Re: So new K.I.3.T isn't original K.I.T.T.?

Post by JJSoCrazy » Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:14 am

As we know and stated by GST they are separate entities (For the 1000000000 time). Anyway, I hope they do something with that garage scene and use that to implicate the KI2T when and hopefully it returns. It would be wise to use that route and go back to where they were filming and do it all over and show what he was doing with KI2T in pieces and of course those other 3 cars.

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Re: So new K.I.3.T isn't original K.I.T.T.?

Post by Stealthwalker » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:53 am

JJSoCrazy wrote:As we know and stated by GST they are separate entities (For the 1000000000 time). Anyway, I hope they do something with that garage scene and use that to implicate the KI2T when and hopefully it returns. It would be wise to use that route and go back to where they were filming and do it all over and show what he was doing with KI2T in pieces and of course those other 3 cars.

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Post by Samborghini » Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:46 pm

I have also noticed FLAG hasn't been mentioned only once in the TV Movie when Dr. Graiman said he was "Resurrecting the foundation" but in this new series they call it Knight Industries is this a division of FLAG?
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Re: So new K.I.3.T isn't original K.I.T.T.?

Post by Phoenix » Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:46 pm

JJSoCrazy wrote:As we know and stated by GST they are separate entities (For the 1000000000 time). Anyway, I hope they do something with that garage scene and use that to implicate the KI2T when and hopefully it returns. It would be wise to use that route and go back to where they were filming and do it all over and show what he was doing with KI2T in pieces and of course those other 3 cars.

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Not to sound like I've been living under a rock but what is "GST?" You posted that "GST" states K.I.T.T. and K.I.3.T are seperate. Okay fine, do they explain what happened to the original K.I.T.T.? Does he still exist or has he been "put to sleep?"

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Re: So new K.I.3.T isn't original K.I.T.T.?

Post by Faithful Car KRO » Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:53 pm

Phoenix wrote:
JJSoCrazy wrote:As we know and stated by GST they are separate entities (For the 1000000000 time). Anyway, I hope they do something with that garage scene and use that to implicate the KI2T when and hopefully it returns. It would be wise to use that route and go back to where they were filming and do it all over and show what he was doing with KI2T in pieces and of course those other 3 cars.

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Not to sound like I've been living under a rock but what is "GST?" You posted that "GST" states K.I.T.T. and K.I.3.T are seperate. Okay fine, do they explain what happened to the original K.I.T.T.? Does he still exist or has he been "put to sleep?"


GST - Gary Scott Tompson, creator of The Fast and The Furious and NBC's Vegas.
He took stuff from the BDP and developed this new serious from that, adding his own take on the show.

And we dont know what happened to the original KITT. Hold you horses.
This show is still building it's own foundation up, the want to establish the charactors and what they're doing before they delve into the past. Which in my opinion is a good Idea.
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Re: So new K.I.3.T isn't original K.I.T.T.?

Post by PHOENIXZERO » Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:10 pm

GST = Gary Scott Thompson = The show runner and in charge of the day to day stuff when it comes to the show's direction.
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Re: So new K.I.3.T isn't original K.I.T.T.?

Post by Army_F_Body » Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:37 pm

This show is still building it's own foundation up, the want to establish the charactors and what they're doing before they delve into the past. Which in my opinion is a good Idea.


Which is a prudent course of action. Not to sound like a TOS fanboy but the minute KI2K shows up it's all over for the Mustang. Talk about upstaging. This new cast needs to be able to hold their own before that happens. I think Kitt's KI2K CPU will make an appearance but not the actual car (Knight 2000). Ford has to know how much a following that old car has and it would be foolish to let it appear intact. Granted 26 year-old cars can't hurt new Mustang sales, but I see the old CPU finding a new home in some sporty Ford concept vehicle.
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Re: So new K.I.3.T isn't original K.I.T.T.?

Post by Faithful Car KRO » Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:56 pm

Army_F_Body wrote:
This show is still building it's own foundation up, the want to establish the charactors and what they're doing before they delve into the past. Which in my opinion is a good Idea.


Which is a prudent course of action. Not to sound like a TOS fanboy but the minute KI2K shows up it's all over for the Mustang. Talk about upstaging.


Huh....?
The show's main audience on TV right now has seemed to be kids and teens who have little to no idea what the original KR was about or few who evern care.
How is an almost 30 year old car going to upstage a brand new mustange, a car which i see dozens and dozens of times a day. Yet i see maybe 2 or 3 trans-ams a week.

If anything the KI3T will upstage KI2T to the new target audience, while KI2T will appearently upstage the KI3T to you....
Its all my opinion, but KI3T is way more advanced than KI3T...although we havent seen all his features, we still have 18 episodes left.....
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Post by Army_F_Body » Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:19 pm

Maybe it's just a mater of opinion, but I feel a lot more viewers will be drawn in by the old car, people born before the 90s that remember and love the classic series. We are still part of the shows intended demographic. I still believe the core of the fanbase is still the older fans and this show will not start a new generation of fans loyal to the new vision as ST:TNG did with me some 20 years ago. However, TNG found a happy medium between new and what has gone before. Wasn't the TNG episode "Relics" and DS9 episode "More Troubles More Tribbles" some of the highest rated? I wasn't even alive when TOS aired but was jazzed to see the old 1701 in action again (if even just for a bridge shot in "Relics.")

However, you could be right as most young people seem to be totally oblivious to things that existed before they did. I can't tell you how many little teen girls I saw outside a Duran Duran concert in 04 talking on their cell phones to their friends about this awesome 'new' band they just saw. I still think NBC could do a lot to plug into the older fans, that's pretty much why I'm here. I'm willing to give the show the benefit of the doubt, and do still support it, but my interest wanes by the week (in fact last week I found a month old issue of Wizard to be more interesting than the episode that aired as I gave up on it about half way through). At this stage I think TKR did more service to the old fans, but I wait with baited breath for ep. 12, 13.

And to hit on another thing, yeah Mustangs are every where. Kind of takes the mystique out of it, don't you think? I always draw crowds when I drive my KITT as most people don't even know what a Trans Am is anymore. In a world where an Acura can be considered muscle this is a beast from another day and age. It's up there with the 60s Batmobile. It's iconic. It's kind of cool to hear an 8 year-old at a gas station tell his Dad I want one of those (and no doubt the dad's thinking the exact same thing).
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Post by Knight Racer » Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:36 am

Why do i have the feeling that Charles Graham will be saying the line,"Good thing I have the original kitt in my basement." :(

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Re: So new K.I.3.T isn't original K.I.T.T.?

Post by kitt34 » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:17 pm

Army_F_Body wrote:Maybe it's just a mater of opinion, but I feel a lot more viewers will be drawn in by the old car, people born before the 90s that remember and love the classic series. We are still part of the shows intended demographic. I still believe the core of the fanbase is still the older fans and this show will not start a new generation of fans loyal to the new vision as ST:TNG did with me some 20 years ago. However, TNG found a happy medium between new and what has gone before. Wasn't the TNG episode "Relics" and DS9 episode "More Troubles More Tribbles" some of the highest rated? I wasn't even alive when TOS aired but was jazzed to see the old 1701 in action again (if even just for a bridge shot in "Relics.")

However, you could be right as most young people seem to be totally oblivious to things that existed before they did. I can't tell you how many little teen girls I saw outside a Duran Duran concert in 04 talking on their cell phones to their friends about this awesome 'new' band they just saw. I still think NBC could do a lot to plug into the older fans, that's pretty much why I'm here. I'm willing to give the show the benefit of the doubt, and do still support it, but my interest wanes by the week (in fact last week I found a month old issue of Wizard to be more interesting than the episode that aired as I gave up on it about half way through). At this stage I think TKR did more service to the old fans, but I wait with baited breath for ep. 12, 13.

And to hit on another thing, yeah Mustangs are every where. Kind of takes the mystique out of it, don't you think? I always draw crowds when I drive my KITT as most people don't even know what a Trans Am is anymore. In a world where an Acura can be considered muscle this is a beast from another day and age. It's up there with the 60s Batmobile. It's iconic. It's kind of cool to hear an 8 year-old at a gas station tell his Dad I want one of those (and no doubt the dad's thinking the exact same thing).


But at least ST: TNG had better special effects, better acting and focused on real issues, this version of KR is loud, silly and empty.
none of the heart, soul and tone of the original.

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Re: So new K.I.3.T isn't original K.I.T.T.?

Post by Lost Knight » Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:51 pm

kitt34 wrote:But at least ST: TNG had better special effects, better acting and focused on real issues, this version of KR is loud, silly and empty.
none of the heart, soul and tone of the original.


kitt34 wrote:You got that right, this new version is already heading on the same level as TKR.


kitt34 wrote:I Agree with the haters, this new version is a big dissappointment and a huge disgrace to the original.


kitt34 wrote:Sadly this new version's even worse.


kitt34 wrote:This new series is a mess, bruce davison completely wasted in this one, this show lacks all of the charm, style and honesty of the original.


kitt34 wrote:I'm sticking to the original, this new one just does not work and never will.


kitt34 wrote:Because this version does not work like the original, I Tried to give this new show a chance and it did not work for me.


kitt34 wrote:This episode was moving, but to me it was not enough to recommend.

This show is gonna stink, just like the last 3 knight rider franchises.


kitt34 wrote:Your so right, it is horrible now.
I Truly hope this is the end of the knight rider tv franchise.


kitt34 wrote:Actually this is even worse.


kitt34 wrote:But the original had heart and soul, this one and the previous 3 lacks any of it.


kitt34 wrote:But this version is just a big failure, there's nothing in it, no plot, nothing.


kitt34 wrote:I Mean the new show does get entertainment for the first 2 minutes or so then it gets so ridiculous and so stupid that it drove me crazy and made viper look like a classic.


kitt34 wrote:Not a chance, this remake stinks, NBC has ran out of steam with this version, in the meantime I'll be watching the original in syndication and on DVD.

Cause I Know what it is.


kitt34 wrote:Let's face it, this new version was a disaster, the mustang did not fit at all, the acting is terrible (especially bruce davison who's completely wasted in this one), the writing is atrocious, the CGI Effects are not that good and everything else is pointless

26 years ago, one man really did make a difference, now 26 years later, one man can't make a difference.


kitt34 wrote:I Saw this show on hulu and I Gave it a big dissappointing thumbs down for me too

You knw the first knight rider really had, actual charm and style and the actors did it good with their roles and the car was cool and this remake looks like it was made from an after school special, a truly endless after school special, the only good thing about this mess is how kitt was turned into a Ford F-150, otherwise that's about it

The Ford Mustang may have been an icon car of it's own right, but it does not hold a candle to the pontiac trans-am

and it's hard to believe that one of my favorite actors bruce davison is in this piece of junk, he's wasted in this thing.

A New Chevy Camaro would be much better, keep the morphing CGI though.


A True disgrace to the original, the pilot was nice, but this premiere is a disaster, let's hope this is the end of the knight rider franchise, the original was good and brilliant and well written, the rest have been trash.


Hey, what do you think of the show again? Because I'm not sure your dozens of useless posts covered it yet.

While I've had my criticisms of the new show, too, I try at least to not make them mindless bashing and repeat the same thing over & over...& over. No one says you have to like the show. But I'm sick and tired of you hijacking every thread with this crap.

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Re: So new K.I.3.T isn't original K.I.T.T.?

Post by Knight94 » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:53 pm

So KI3T is not the original. It's not supposed to be. Like J.B. said, "It's more of a continuation." I think KI2T
will show up sometime on this series. They do mention it a number of times, like when Welther talks about
the car that Graiman built for Wilton Knight, w/ what was considered the most advanced AI imagineable.
Jenny asks Charles about KITT, "KITT's not another Trans Am, is it?" He answers "Mustang." They also tell
Mike about the original KITT, Jenny tells him that his father, MK Sr. is the one who drove the first KITT.
Mike is, of course, stunned at the news that there was another KITT. Watch the pilot again, already.

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Re: So new K.I.3.T isn't original K.I.T.T.?

Post by Phoenix » Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:06 pm

Ah, okay now I know. I do hope the original K.I.T.T. makes an appearance, maybe like a team up. K.I.T.T. and K.I.3.T.

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