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KITT
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:23 am
by MURDOCK
Is there a reference of kitt or knighrtrider in the new herbie movie?
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:12 am
by Phoenix915
Yup. There's a montage at the beginning where we see what Herbie's been up to for the twenty years between movies. A newspaper is shown with Herbie and KITT together with the headline 'Herbie Hangs Out With Knight Rider.
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:37 pm
by Arroww'
Yes, you're right! It's very strange, however....Perhaps because both KITT and Herbie are the only cars that have a soul?

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:32 pm
by Super knight
that right.

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:09 pm
by FuzzieDice
Christine and The Car also have 'souls' so to speak.

And don't forget KARR!
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:36 pm
by TheKnightFox
yea! KARR has a soul-it'd be wierd if the AI didn't. its why he is who he is....
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:37 pm
by Arroww'
FuzzieDice wrote:Christine and The Car also have 'souls' so to speak.

And don't forget KARR!
Yes, but they have an EVIL soul....

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:40 pm
by TheKnightFox
yup. theres a difference. KARR's soul is definitely evil, as we all know. but KARR is still KARR....
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:05 pm
by jup
Hold on, now. KARR is not evil. KARR is a bit on the renegade side. But, he's not evil.
In Trust Doesn't Rust, what makes you think he's evil? How would you like to be put into a thinking coma over someone else's judgement and then forgotten about...to be found by some thieves in the night and abducted into their group...forced out of a loyalty, bonded by them freeing you to do illegal acts, like bank and jewelry roberies? I agree with Devon's way of putting it. KARR is a tool, devoid of a consciousness. A dangerous tool. Explain to me why KARR is 'evil'.
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:48 pm
by KFCreator
Oxford American Dictionaries defines evil as:
adjective: "profoundly immoral and malevolent," "harmful or tending to harm" and "extremely unpleasant"
noun: "profound immorality, wickedness and depravity, esp. when regarded as a supernatural force"
I'd say that KARR exhibits all of the above. It may be a result of his programming for self-preservation rather than KITT's preservation of human life but nonetheless, it's that selfishness that oftentimes puts others in great danger and therefore that makes KARR evil.
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:10 pm
by FuzzieDice
I agree with Jup - KARR isn't exactly evil. He just did as he was programmed and then was punished for it. But in 3rd season, I think is when people thought KARR to be more "evil". Since he screwed with Eddie's pacemaker, wrecked the bridge, etc. He plotted, thought, though about distruction. But still, can you blame someone for striking back against those that tried to kill him in the first place, instead of explaining the mishap and trying to take him in and repair and help him?
It's an interesting topic, for sure.

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:36 pm
by Arroww'
I can understand your point of view, KARR is angry because of FLAG tried to kill him. However he is a criminal when he kidnaps John and his girlfriend.

He has a mafia's style!

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:10 pm
by Fantine
KARR is nasty, unpleasant, and all around not nice AI.
But he does have a cool voice.
Oooh, he could be a Love Song DJ for night time radio.
"This song is dedicated to all you saps out there pining away like the pathetic humans you are."
(Yes, yes, I am insane.)
