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Is this really a screen-used KITT?
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:16 am
by HondaSiR
Found this auction in ebay Germany. Seller claims this car was used in the series. Interior looks authentic but the front bumper lacks the turn-signal blackouts for an early season version. What do you guys think? Authentic or not, it sure is attracting a lot of bids.
Link:
http://cgi.ebay.de/KNIGHT-RIDER-ORIGINA ... dZViewItem
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:37 am
by Knight-Armen
What makes you think that this is a screen-used KITT? The dash is A REAL FAKE!!! Not even realistic. No... don't think that that is a screen-used KITT.
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:06 am
by knightdriver
WOW,
I dunno on this. is there someone who can translate all that?
Those electronics dont look like any conversion companies I know of.
They look very close tothe real car. I would have guessed the dash to
be from Mark but it doesn't have the same angles as Marks. Looks more
like Robs but again, it has some differences to it. Lower console looks
like Lousiells also but again, some differences.
I's like to see more on this if I could translate the language on the
auction. Anyone help on that?
EDIT, look like someone did translate it further down. I didn't catch it.
After close scrutiny, that may very well be the one of the original cars
that made it to a museum down there. There is just to much on that
car that makes me wonder if it is a real one.
I wish there where more pictures to go by.
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:54 am
by Army_F_Body
Could it have been a season 1 car upgraded for use in the later seasons. The weird nose is what perplexes me. Would have been cheaper for the studios to through on a new nose and leave the interior the same and use it for exterior shots only. I don't know.
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:14 am
by KITTfan
According to the pics I have (didn't saw it in person) the frontnose looks like the nose in the KITT car that visited here in Finland on summer 1987. It has rounded edges but without turnsignal covers or indents. Also the foglight openings are closed, perhaps with black plexiglass. The dash looks pretty close to that too, except the voicebox and of course the monitors. The car that visited here apparently had manual transmission and the one in the ebay seems to have automatic.
If there was more cars touring europe, maybe the car in guestion could be one of them.
-KITTfan-
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:33 am
by K.I.T.T
Its always really hard judging whether its a real car or not.... but with the right docs and the Universal plate on the car will 100% back up his claim!
Nick
P.S car looks ok i guess lol
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:52 am
by Michelle
I don't know much about cars or making models of them, but this one does look authentic!! I mean if it isn't it is ONE KICK A$$ Model!!!!!! It would also be nice to see it with the headlights on, because it looks like it is missing a few to me!!
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:05 am
by Phoenix915
That the guy auctioning KITT off doesn't have any verification from Universal makes it sound a little funny to me. It is a nice car, but if someone bids that much for a screen-used car, they should GET a screen-used car.
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:48 am
by K.I.T.T
i was on the understanding all KITT cars used had a Universal plate on it somewhere? He has to be a moron if he took his off lmao.
Nick
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 2:40 pm
by Lost Knight
I'm going to take a shot in the dark here and say no. The dashboard itself has the glossy finish, which I'm not sure even existed on these cars until the conversion companies offered it. The nose does have that "dip" and rounded edges, but no turn signal blackouts or indents for them. Season 3's nose would be the closest to this one, but it had the indents. The car is too detailed to be a stunt car as well, which also makes me doubt the authenticity of it being "screen used." I think it's just another replica only it has a few parts from a foreign country that we're not used to seeing.
EDIT: There's even what appears to be a car radio in there. Who would install a car radio in a screen used car?
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 3:05 pm
by Lyn
How do you say "That's a lot of crap!" in German?
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:00 pm
by Lost Knight
Hm...after reading the English text, I see that the dashboard and wheel have been refurbished. Now I'm not so sure.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:40 pm
by KentuckyKITT
3 things:
1. The windsheild has a tint strip at the top...NO KITT had a tint strip...the windows were clear all the way to the top...but windsheilds can be replaced...
2. The left (driverside) section of the dash is UNLIKE any conversion companies dash...it does not "slant" in the corner, it's almost straight up and down....if you watch closely in the shows..you will see this dash in the 1st and 2nd season. 3rd season on..it becomes angled sharply.
3. The door handles have "fuel injected" stickers on them...hmmmm...but then again, I don't think Universal expected anyone to notice such small things...as those stickers would not show up in a chase scene or from far away on camera.
.....just a few things I noticed....could be original
I am awaiting pictures from this guy taken before he restored and repainted things.
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:56 pm
by FuzzieDice
I don't think that early 3rd gen T/As even had "Fuel Injected" printed on the door handles. Usually Pontiac put that on the front fenders of the cars, I think.
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 4:27 am
by Army_F_Body
FuzzieDice wrote:I don't think that early 3rd gen T/As even had "Fuel Injected" printed on the door handles. Usually Pontiac put that on the front fenders of the cars, I think.
I think your thinking of Camaros with the TPI badges on the fenders and rear bumper. Early third gens had the "Limited Edition" door handle badges I believe. I think the "Fuel Injection" door handle badges were a mid 80s thing (86-89?). I don't recall the late 80s to early 90s ones having such badges.
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:22 am
by knightdriver
Army_F_Body wrote:FuzzieDice wrote:I don't think that early 3rd gen T/As even had "Fuel Injected" printed on the door handles. Usually Pontiac put that on the front fenders of the cars, I think.
I think your thinking of Camaros with the TPI badges on the fenders and rear bumper. Early third gens had the "Limited Edition" door handle badges I believe. I think the "Fuel Injection" door handle badges were a mid 80s thing (86-89?). I don't recall the late 80s to early 90s ones having such badges.
My car is an 82 and it has the door badges. I think it was for the crossfire
cars. All of my 82 crossfires had the fuel injection door handle. Its a
legit badge!
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:47 am
by Michelle
Lost Knight, how did u get english text on that thing????

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:47 am
by knightdriver
The second half of the auction is in english. or good enough to understand
anyways. They translate it half way down the listing. beofre the pictures.
Brian
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 4:05 pm
by Lost Knight
Is this car missing the pin stripes or streaks across the doors or is it just me?
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:14 pm
by knightdriver
Lost Knight wrote:Is this car missing the pin stripes or streaks across the doors or is it just me?
If you mean the door side protective moldings, then yes, they have been
removed.

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:52 pm
by Lost Knight
Yes, whatever they're called, lol. The hero cars had them, this one doesn't. Hmmm....