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KARR vs The Borg

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KARR vs Borg...Who Would Win

Post by My_Friend_KITT » Tue May 19, 2009 6:00 am

It's the battle of the century.
It's KARR vs the Borg.

Who do you think will win and why?
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Re: KARR vs Borg...Who Would Win

Post by rwmu » Tue May 19, 2009 7:53 am

Pretty short fight, the Borg transport KARR into space the hard radiation fries his circuits and his shell is destroyed on re-entry or by falling into the sun.
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Re: KARR vs Borg...Who Would Win

Post by trissybabes » Tue May 19, 2009 8:23 am

I didn't know Ernest Borgnine was that strong.

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Re: KARR vs Borg...Who Would Win

Post by chrisjones » Tue May 19, 2009 10:13 am

A single 'car' against a race of cybernetic, technology assimilating creatures? OOOh let me think lol..
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Re: KARR vs Borg...Who Would Win

Post by Lost Knight » Tue May 19, 2009 12:01 pm

Uh, the Borg. No contest. :)
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Re: KARR vs Borg...Who Would Win

Post by Hardkore » Tue May 19, 2009 1:45 pm

Simply put... The Borg. They will assimilate KARR into the collective.

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Re: KARR vs Borg...Who Would Win

Post by evangeline5432 » Tue May 19, 2009 2:14 pm

Lost Knight wrote:Uh, the Borg. No contest. :)
Yeah, def the Borg!
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Re: KARR vs Borg...Who Would Win

Post by My_Friend_KITT » Tue May 19, 2009 4:25 pm

Okay,
Here's my take on it.

I know that KARR would give them one heck of a battle because of his Self-preservation program. He wouldn't want to be assimilated.

I don't think that the Borg would be able to beam KARR into space because KARR could send an EMP surge while being transported and totally destroy and or fry the Borg's transporter device...Go KARR!

And even though the Borg has an advantage because of their numbers...
They would probably have their hands full trying to assimilate the planet at the same time. So KARR would probably not have too many to fight off at any given point in time.

Here's another point...
If it is the current KARR from the '08 series, would he use a nano-skin too?
This could prevent any damage the Borg may try to inflict on KARR....Hmmmm

So I am currently siding with KARR. *giggle*
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Re: KARR vs Borg...Who Would Win

Post by rwmu » Wed May 20, 2009 12:50 am

Just to play devils advocate to your idea My_Friend_KITT,

1) KARRs EMP does destory the transporter, the Borg then repair it in a matter of momments building in EMP shielding as they go then transport KARR off planet etc etc

2) New KARRs nanoskin repairs the damage from the Borg weapons, the Borg adapt and the next volley of shots include a weapon that destorys the nanoskin first.

As with most of these discussions the winner would depend on which side the writer came from.
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Re: KARR vs Borg...Who Would Win

Post by My_Friend_KITT » Thu May 21, 2009 2:22 am

Hi rwmu,

Yeah, I guess it would have a lot to do with the writers. :)

I still think that KARR would give the Borg one heck of a fight.
Yeah, they could rebuild their technology after the emp...but that moment in time could give KARR a distinct advantage. :)
By that time he could be deep within their software and downloading any programs of use...he could probably even find a way to meld with the hive mind without being truly assimilated. :)

I find this topic fun...your turn...How do you see it?
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Re: KARR vs Borg...Who Would Win

Post by rwmu » Thu May 21, 2009 12:59 pm

You know the idea of KARR doing a sneaky upload did occur to me.

However I can see the EMP/Micro Jam affecting the Transporter at the point of Transport but I can't see it affecting the Cube generating the Tranasporter Beam, a Space Ship by definion would have shielding against that sort thing so it can function in the raditation soaked areas of outerspace. Yes KARR could escape the inital Transport attempt but unlikely to get a second attempt.

If KARR did try an upload himself I think he might be able to meld with one Cube but then the rest of the collective would seprate. Similar to what happened in I Borg and Descent Parts 1 & 2
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Re: KARR vs Borg...Who Would Win

Post by My_Friend_KITT » Thu May 21, 2009 6:05 pm

Hi Rwmu,

Here ya go. :)

Yeah, the radiation and such would be blocked but only by the deflector shields on the outside of the cube. You wouldn't expect the inside of the ship to be bombared by such problems or would you?

As per the upload, I agree...He could only be at one cube at one time...but he could "hear" the whole hive from that vantage point. :) Goooo KARR!

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Re: KARR vs Borg...Who Would Win

Post by rwmu » Fri May 22, 2009 3:03 pm

Evening My_Friend_KITT

I would expect the circuits to be hardened since the deflector shields are not on all the time, the pulse crearted by Warp Drive would affect the entire ship EMP doesn't affect organics at all, if fact it wouldn't affect the Borg circuitry at all since it seemed to be mostly organic in constuction not electronic/electical.

KARR could jump into a Cube but you only get to try each trick once then the Borg adapt the rest of the collective would just destroy the KARR infected Cube.
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Re: KARR vs Borg...Who Would Win

Post by My_Friend_KITT » Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:12 am

Hi rwmu,

Is it my turn again? :)

I agree that KARR could in theory only be able to be inside one Borg cube computer at any one given point in time...but would he need to be inside any other anyway?

The hive mind is connected to all the cubes all at once...
all he needs is access to one and he knows it all.

Ha!
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Re: KARR vs Borg...Who Would Win

Post by chrisjones » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:46 am

Technology of 2008 Vs Technology of *approx* 2380...... hmmmm really now, cummon!
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Re: KARR vs Borg...Who Would Win

Post by rwmu » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:53 pm

Hi My_Friend_Kitt

I think the hive mind is the very think that would now defeat the now bodyless KARR it would grab his very inferior program and shove it in the Borg equivelent of a recyle bin, followed by a quick bleaching just to make sure.

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