ERTL AND HOT WHEELS ELITE KITT COMPARISON PHOTOS

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Re: ERTL AND HOT WHEELS ELITE KITT COMPARISON PHOTOS

Post by msKEN » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:00 pm

Problem with mine other than the right t-top not being able to sit flush is that for some reason, the rear seat on mine can't incline all the way so that its leaning.


Looks like your headlights don't sit flush either, or was that just something over looked when you made the video? I'm really torn on this model, I canceled the Elite and pre-ordered the Super Elite but not sure I want to shell out that much money if that's the level of quality control we can expect for that kind of money. Call me ignorant but I think that t-top should fit and the seats should work properly (Latching and folding) for $160 let alone $350.
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Post by imranbecks » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:44 pm

The headlights on mine sits ok.. I did not push it in till it clicked before I did the video. Only after doing the video did I realize the headlights needed to be pushed down till a click is heard, then the button will reset and the lights will be sitting flushed in its place as shown in the photo below...

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Post by KITTfan » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:46 am

imranbecks wrote:I finally got my KITT.. Problem with mine other than the right t-top not being able to sit flush is that for some reason, the rear seat on mine can't incline all the way so that its leaning. No matter how hard I push it against the back of the interior, the seat keeps staying in an almost 90 degree position.. Other than that, it sure is an impressive piece.


I've got another 80's car, '81 Ford Escort Mk3 in 1/18 by Sunstar and it has the same flaw in the backseat if I understood correctly. Altough this one is much cheaper than the Hotwheels KITT, it still is quite annoying as there is big visible gap between the rear seat and parcel shelf. Haven't figured out exactly why it doesn't sit properly in place but my guess is the backrest makes contact with the rear wheel wells, perhaps those areas in the backrest are shaped wrong or my sample has some manufacturing error.
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Post by imranbecks » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:25 am

Looks to be a similar problem. I think the only way to fix my rear seat problem is by opening up the entire model which I don't plan on doing anytime soon..hahaha.. I do feel tempted to just glue the back of the seat so it leans properly in place....hmmm... It sure is annoying though. The rear seat actually bothers me a lot more than the passenger side t-top cover not being able to sit flush..haha

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Post by sinhoc » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:31 am

hello all,

i am new to this forum
can anyone measure the length and width of the HW Elite for me please?
i already have the RC2 version and still considering to get HW version or not
is the HW version longer and wider than the RC2 version?
If YES,how much longer and wider?
Thx

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Post by imranbecks » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:37 am

sinhoc wrote:hello all,

i am new to this forum
can anyone measure the length and width of the HW Elite for me please?
i already have the RC2 version and still considering to get HW version or not
is the HW version longer and wider than the RC2 version?
If YES,how much longer and wider?
Thx


Hmmm.. They are of the same 1/18 scale. So even if the measurements are off between the two, its probably not by much. I don't have the RC2 KITT with me for now since its still at my mum's place ever since I moved out recently. Either way, I highly recommend the HW KITT since its basically better than the RC2 in more ways than one... Here is a photo Daniel had uploaded of both cars together...

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Post by sinhoc » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:44 am

to imranbecks :

thx for your comment
BTW,have u got the HW version on hand now?
do u mind to measure the length and width for me?
THX you so much!!!!!

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Post by imranbecks » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:20 am

Its abt 11" in length and 4" in width :-)

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Post by KITTfan » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:14 pm

Had the ERTL KITT on hand and width with mirrors is 11,5cm (4.5 inch) and length 27,5cm which converted to inches is 10.8.
Conversion done in http://www.manuelsweb.com/in_cm.htm, the first result in Google search :P
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Post by imranbecks » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:21 pm

Thats more or less the same size as the Elite KITT..

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Post by KITTfan » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:38 pm

Did someone ask comparison photos :D

First my all 18th scale KR cars:
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Here's all KITT's and KARR I have:
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I love that every detail I had to do myself to the ERTL KITT is already done in Hotwheels, for example:
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Few comparison shots with Greenlight Collectibles '89 Pontiac Trans-Am GTA:
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Post by tuske427 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:01 am

DanielB wrote:I think the box is supposed to be for the winch/grappling hook. The hook is a moulded detail under the nose.


The bulge is the result of making room for the PC board for the flashing lights.

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Post by tuske427 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:02 am

imranbecks wrote:Agreed.. Unless a real KR fan works at Mattel/Hot Wheels, we will probably never get a 99.9% accurate and perfect KITT model..


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Post by jinkazama » Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:34 am

Hey KITTFAN, i noticed one of your 1/18 KITT cars has a blue scanner.Did you modify it yourself, or was that an actual diecast KITT car that was released?Cheers! :kitt:

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Post by Skav » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:26 am

jinkazama wrote:Hey KITTFAN, i noticed one of your 1/18 KITT cars has a blue scanner.Did you modify it yourself, or was that an actual diecast KITT car that was released?Cheers! :kitt:


It looks like a reflection of something to me.

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Post by jinkazama » Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:24 am

Hey KITTFAN, i just want to ask, aside from the ertl kitt/karr and hot wheels elite kitt cars, which is the other one pictured?Cheers. :karr:

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Post by jinkazama » Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:33 am

Hey Skav, i noticed that you have a picture of a model of Goliath in your posts.Where did you get this from?Did you buy it, or did you make it yourself?Cheers. :kitt:

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Post by KITTfan » Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:45 pm

Thanks for the interest jinkazama :)

The blue colour in one KITT's scanner is indeed just a reflection, that particular model has red transparent lense in front of the scanner which seems to create unwanted reflections in some conditions.

I photographed two 1/18 ERTL KITT + KARR, Hotwheels KITT in three scales (one 1/64 in unopened condition... so far :P ) and the black hardtop is Greenlight Collectibles 1/18 Pontiac Trans-Am GTA '89.

There's also Majorette 1/64 black Pontiac Trans-Am in one of the photos which has red scanner sticker pasted by me, also a cardboard KITT from the 80's, probably from cornflakes or Weetabix box, don't remember exactly anymore :)

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Post by Skav » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:09 pm

jinkazama wrote:Hey Skav, i noticed that you have a picture of a model of Goliath in your posts.Where did you get this from?Did you buy it, or did you make it yourself?Cheers. :kitt:


It was a custom made model made for me personally by Tony Westwood who can be found over at KRUK.com.

Sadly I do not own it anymore.

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Post by KITTfan » Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:16 am

jinkazama wrote:Hey KITTFAN, i just want to ask, aside from the ertl kitt/karr and hot wheels elite kitt cars, which is the other one pictured?Cheers. :karr:


In my original reply I thought you meant what were the other scales but after re-reading this thread I realized perhaps you meant the different 18th scale versions I pictured in these photos:
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So here's an addendum to my original answer :)

From left to right:
1. ERTL Joyride KITT, updated version with all clear foglights. Factory original condition.
2. ERTL Joyride KARR, additional details done by me.
3. ERTL Joyride KARR, additional details done by me, major change done in the foglight area which included cutting the metal pillars between the foglights to create one wide opening per side.
4. Hotwheels KITT, factory original condition.

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