1.01 - Knight of the Phoenix (Pilot)

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Re: 1.01 - Knight of the Phoenix (Pilot)

Post by simon_a6 » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:01 am

Oh my heavens. When you use Streetview, it's just so obvious that it's the location. The trees, that other road. You can even see from what is there now, where the Tiki bit would have been.
Absolute stella work to find it. And that's iGav for giving me the Co-Ords.

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Re: 1.01 - Knight of the Phoenix (Pilot)

Post by iGav » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:46 pm

It's not really one of the important locations from the pilot, but I thought I'd post it regardless.

The location of the 'San Francisco & Millston' road sign, that we get a brief glimpse of as Michael & KITT head to Millston, Silicon Valley.

The sign was located on Del Valle Rd, Newhall, CA,

34°27'21.08"N
118°38'39.26"W

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Funnily enough, this location has been used quite a few times, moments before we see the 'Millston' sign scene, one of the aerial scenes shows KITT driving on the exact same section of Del Valle Rd (sans the sign).

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In a different episode (I can't remember which, but can seen at approx 2:36 in this video on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i96xlvxDNeQ) has a sequence taken from the same aerial footage as above, but with KITT a couple of hundred metres further down the Del Valle Rd.

34°27'10.00"N
118°38'49.48"W

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It is one of those locations whose usage seemed to crop up in different episodes over the years, from the pilot (location of the 'San Francisco & Millston' sign), aerial montages, through to season 4.

This location was also used in season 4 episode 'The Wrong Crowd'. When Michael & KITT stop next to a pumpjack to analyse semi tread marks, and then where they do a reverse 180'.

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Re: 1.01 - Knight of the Phoenix (Pilot)

Post by iGav » Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:43 pm

Not a major location, just a quick cutscene... (about 32:16 in)but hey, if we want to document all of the filming locations... :lol:

Located on 'East Carlisle Road, Westlake Village'.

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34° 7'35.95"N
118°52'27.92"W

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Re: 1.01 - Knight of the Phoenix (Pilot)

Post by simon_a6 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:06 pm

30 years on, the old lamp post remains to the right of the tree.
I don't recall this moment, but shall have a look. Judging by the timing, is it during the moment he goes off on his own before falling asleep at the wheel?

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Re: 1.01 - Knight of the Phoenix (Pilot)

Post by iGav » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:48 am

Millston, Silicon Valley… in reality, Ojai, California.

Hard to imagine they sent a crew up there for a 2 second cut scene, so likely either stock footage, or something they already had in a vault... still, a bit of a mission to find, but it's good to finally see what town doubled for Millston all the same. :D

Approx Camera Location:
34°27'53.10"N
119°14'24.39"W

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Re: 1.01 - Knight of the Phoenix (Pilot)

Post by Joe Huth » Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:31 am

Gas station from the Pilot:

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KITT's 360's in an intersection:

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Re: 1.01 - Knight of the Phoenix (Pilot)

Post by simon_a6 » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:27 am

What is on that petrol station site now - is it another petrol station? I seem to recall reading it was in this thread somewhere... (or the old thread).
Be very cool to park exactly where he parked and had his tyre spiked (attempted).

btw... good to see who you are Joe in Nick's video. Looks like a truly fabulous occasion.

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Re: 1.01 - Knight of the Phoenix (Pilot)

Post by iGav » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:21 pm

Now… I suppose this could be considered a minor scene, in that it's rather brief, but like the scene where KITT first speaks, it's a memorable one, because this is the location where KITT first demonstrates his ability to drive himself, YES… this is the location where Michael (with Devon at his side) play "chicken with a ten-ton semi". :lol:

I've been searching for this… on and off, for about a year now :oops: , but today, after a determined side-by-side comparison between Historic Aerials and Google Earth, I've finally pinpointed the location. Ironically this was located only about 1 mile to the east of Del Valle Road (the location of the Milston/San-Francisco sign, as well as many other scenes in Knight Rider).

As KITT approaches, there's a Double Bend sign… which tallies with the 1969/77 photographs on Historic Aerials of the layout prior to the area's extensive redevelopment in the late 1980's/90's, as does the access roads to the pylon, the first of which can clearly be seen on the historic photo and is where they come to a screeching halt and Michael and Devon finish their conversation (red dot marks the spot).

And as can be seen, the topography between the still and Google Earth match too.

Redevelopment has seen the destruction of the original road layout (Hasley Canyon Road) and double bend (though as can be seen on Google Earth, the remainder of the old road past the bend still exists) as well as the destruction of the original access roads where KITT skids to a stop. The ridge the pylon sits atop has been extended out covering these features. Sliding the timeline in Google Earth back to 1994 shows the remnants of the road that KITT passes the semi on, though the double bend is still extant.

I'm pleased I've finally found it… but disappointed it's no longer the same. :(

34°26'56.01"N
118°37'28.34"W

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Post by one_man » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:55 am

iGav wrote:As can be seen from my post count, I seldom post on here :wink: , but I read this thread frequently, I have to say, major props to 1982 on finding/knowing/naming this location, :good: surely one of the Holy Grails (along with the cube Comtron HQ) of Knight Rider locations.

I've posted a couple of Google Earth Street View images for Bryan so that he can see the location. I've linked to the original image posted by Handzus' Stupid Fro for an easy compare, the house roof in the background can clearly be seen (I would've taken a screenshot from closer, but a tree covers the distinctive roof shape).

Also, the same white, concrete street light base can be seen in the car park.

Really though, a proper brilliant find. :good:


Finally got time to post my visit to the HOTRS location a while back . Although it no longer exists,
I tried my best to create a few 'then and now' shots here.

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It's interesting to see the utility pole (slightly different) and the house in the background!
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Re: 1.01 - Knight of the Phoenix (Pilot)

Post by one_man » Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:20 pm

Joe Huth wrote:According to Steve Whiteside, the location used when KITT breaks out of Comtron is the Universal Studios backlot....scanning the studio for those globe lights might reveal the exact location...


I found the alley where KITT passed after busting out of Comtron garage.
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The same location was used in Airwolf Season 3, "Where Have All the Children Gone?"
It's seen near the end of the episode where the children arrived at an aerospace facility.
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It's an alley located in the Universal Studio. Coordinates: 34°8'24.45"N 118°21'33.68"W
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However, I still cannot find the garage (glass doors) itself in the vicinity. Let's keep searching!
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Re: 1.01 - Knight of the Phoenix (Pilot)

Post by one_man » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:12 am

Here is my field trip to Comtron!

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see previous post for details.
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close-up view of the 'electrical box'
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Re: House Of The Rising Sun Location Disclosed

Post by iGav » Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:11 pm

one_man wrote:Finally got time to post my visit to the HOTRS location a while back . Although it no longer exists,
I tried my best to create a few 'then and now' shots here.


These are brilliant one_man, :good: I’d only recently taken another look on Google Earth’s street view, and they’ve updated the imagery for the old HOTRS location and although they’ve covered a little of the car park, they didn’t quite capture the angles like you have above. Utterly sterling work. :good:

It’s interesting you mentioned the utility pole, I noticed that too on the updated Google Earth imagery. ;)

Great work on the Comtron photos too, i still think it vaguely astonishing that despite the enormous changes and development to some of the other locations that Comtron looks all but identical 30 years later.

Certainly your photos confirm (to me anyway) that the ejector seat scene was filmed on location and not on the backlot.

There’s still a few locations from ‘Knight of the Phoenix’ that I’ve yet to locate (not major ones, more simply for completions sake) hopefully I’ll pinpoint them in the near future.

I have to say, I do hope that sometime in the future that I’ll be able to find the time to get back out to the U.S. to see these locations for myself (particularly the ‘Knight of the Phoenix’ locations as it remains my absolute favourite episode - such an enormous and fondly remembered part of my childhood too).

I have to ask, are you not tempted to arrange a visit to the Newhall Film ranch up in Valencia to scout the veritable treasure trove of locations there? :mrgreen:

But again... sterling work sir. And very much appreciated from a fellow fan a few thousand miles away. :)

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Re: 1.01 - Knight of the Phoenix (Pilot)

Post by KITTfan » Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:15 pm

Very nice comparison shots :) It is fascinating to see these then and now photos in this section of the forum, also finding the locations in the first place.
BIG Thanks for taking the trouble visiting those places and sharing the photos in this forum :)

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Re: 1.01 - Knight of the Phoenix (Pilot)

Post by JJohnson » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:25 am

Where's the gas station, and place where KITT did the 360's? I saw the map, but I don't think those locations are really accurate in the KR map

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Re: 1.01 - Knight of the Phoenix (Pilot)

Post by Stéphane Ascoët » Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:00 pm

Hi, I come here because like most of you, I grew up watching Knight Rider. Now I'm aware how much this serie is ridiculous in many aspects, but his childhoodness, his lack of truthfullness, his naive hope in technology can change my mind, making me forget daily problems, with this incredible californian ambiance, with views of beautiful Kitt, beautiful girls, great music playing beyond. Thanks to this board(sadly it seems to be almost dead, where are you, all location explorers? and lot of pictures don't display still) I've contributed a lot to K2000 pages on french Wikipedia :-)

So here's my question: I'm surprised that nobody talked about the casino building at the very beginning. I may be crazy, but I wonder if it couldn't be the mall we can see on viewtopic.php?f=1060&t=11725&hilit=el+mirage&start=650#p188596

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Re: 1.01 - Knight of the Phoenix (Pilot)

Post by one_man » Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:28 am

Stéphane Ascoët wrote:So here's my question: I'm surprised that nobody talked about the casino building at the very beginning. I may be crazy, but I wonder if it couldn't be the mall we can see on viewtopic.php?f=1060&t=11725&hilit=el+mirage&start=650#p188596


The Vegas casino building is actually Sheraton Hotel near LAX airport (see the topic below).
viewtopic.php?f=1065&t=11678
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