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What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby Tony P Knight Driver » Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:12 am

If you could change one thing in Knight Rider what would it be?

Me I would like to see the show stop advertising FORD products and give our hero, Michael Knight Jr, a new mission, to fighting criminals who operate above the law. With the use of one man and one car, KITT, both responsible for resolving issues that are beyond typical legal measures.
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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby Garthe Knight » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:17 am

If I had to chose one thing, I would get rid of the whole transformation thing.
Keep KITT as the normal Mustang and let him do stunts instead of transforming over and over again.

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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby KRAvengerII » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:23 am

They can keep "Attack mode", though.
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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby _K3000_ » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:53 am

KRAvengerII wrote:They can keep "Attack mode", though.


I agree with this statement
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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby Garthe Knight » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:07 am

I disagree. The attack mode stands for everything that is wrong with the new Knight Rider.
KITT was always about defending people, not attacking. That's why he never had weapons. So even the word "attack" is wrong, not speaking of missiles, miniguns and such that all Ford Rider vehicles had (see TKR).

Apart from that the attack mode just looks bad. All the fast and furious neon drag wheels super big spoiler front air tube crap is nothing like Knight Rider. KITT should be like a horse, strong and beatiful. Understatement.
That's why the Mustang is indeed a good choice for the car, but the tuned attack verion is crap.

My opinion and nothing will change that.

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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby Kram061-1 » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:21 am

yeah I could live with Attack Mode. Maybe even the last pickup from 'Hunter', but I could live without it too. Get rid of the stupid HUD, voice activations, and put in a better steering wheel (and dash), and put button activation back in there. Add more car jumps, ski driving, ejection seats, more than a 45 second chase scene, quit letting everyone drive KITT, just MK. Bring back Hoff to replace Graiman ( AT ALL COSTS!!!!! )

Stop trying to do the show cheap, do it right. At this point I truly believe the show is way too far beyond saving, but at least if it's going to go out, let it go out in style!

HERE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM: I figure they have got to be up to filming at least episode 16 or 17 or so. So if they have done these things by the big episode, or shortly thereafter, I doubt you will see any of the ideas post in this discussion, or ANY of the recent discussions on this board. Too late.

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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby pat329 » Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:16 pm

I would like to see David Hasselhoff being a huge part of the show and bring Mike' mom back. :good: :kitt:

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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby ghidorah15 » Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:37 pm

pat329 wrote:I would like to see David Hasselhoff being a huge part of the show and bring Mike' mom back. :good: :kitt:


Unfortunately, Mike's mom was shot dead in the two-hour pilot by the chief bad guy. Michael Knight Sr. appeared at her funeral.

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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby cerdjee4 » Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:21 pm

I agree with kram for like about 80%
1. they can keep the attack mode but let it be like it was in the movie.
2. dump the pick-up, how can a car with the size of a mustang transfor into a car with the size of a pick-up, if they wanna drive on bad terrain give the car hydraulics and a better suspension.
3. stop the transformations where you see the parts come out and go in and stuff but let it be how it was in the movie.
4. the inside of the car should be exactly like it was in the movie.
5. the voice modulator should also be like it was in the movie.
6. if KARR comes back let it be a 1982 pontiac trans-am again
7. KITT can kill people when necesary.
8. weapons in KITT are ok
9. KITT started as a 2008 ford mustang shelby GT500KR and it stays a 2008 ford mustang shelby GT500KR.
10. more driving, more turbo boost, more hi speeds, longer chases than 45 seconds, only mike drives or KITT drives itsself.
11. an episode should not wander off from the story line. so when there comes an story line in an episode, each episode until the end of the storyline should be about the storyline.
12. let billy sleep with zoe (if that happens im gonna laugh myself to death)
13. more david hasselhof micheal knights in the series with the old KITT, like: the hoff and bruening fighting together with both KITTS.

If they would do this knight rider is the most perfect tv program in the world.

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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby madmanmalk » Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:32 pm

I just hope KARR comes back and runs around like mad in the SSC with everyone in. Only KITT, michael graiman billy and sarah survive, Everyone else is expendable anyway :) lol.

no that would be bad but i guess getting rid of all 5000 SSC employeyes would be much better :mrgreen: :kitt:

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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby pat329 » Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:00 pm

ghidorah15 wrote:
pat329 wrote:I would like to see David Hasselhoff being a huge part of the show and bring Mike' mom back. :good: :kitt:


Unfortunately, Mike's mom was shot dead in the two-hour pilot by the chief bad guy. Michael Knight Sr. appeared at her funeral.


It happen' all the time that they bring dead people back or that see was going under cover,and that see' still alive;i mean it could happen. :good: :kitt:

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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby Kram061-1 » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:53 pm

I actually like the voice modulator very much. I also am getting quite sick of the transformations, although I kinda like the Police Car; I think that might have been a hologram though, thereby making it completely acceptable. That last transformation they did was the worst, that show box looking SUV in the casino :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

I seriously doubt you'll see an end to the Transformer thing, I'd be willing to anything on that; but it does suck though.

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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby cloudkitt » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:18 am

cerdjee4 wrote:6. if KARR comes back let it be a 1982 pontiac trans-am again


Well now wait second, how the HELL would KARR be in his original body. It is in pieces. I'm not crazy about him a MustangRobot, but having him in :karr: would make absolutely no sense.

If I see a Trans Am, it should be KI2T, no one else.
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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby Garthe Knight » Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:04 am

Kram061-1 wrote:I actually like the voice modulator very much. I also am getting quite sick of the transformations, although I kinda like the Police Car; I think that might have been a hologram though, thereby making it completely acceptable. That last transformation they did was the worst, that show box looking SUV in the casino :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

I seriously doubt you'll see an end to the Transformer thing, I'd be willing to anything on that; but it does suck though.


I agree. I think it would be awesome, if KITT wouldn't transform into all those vehicles, because it's not believable, but if he has hologram emitters that allow him to appear as other cars or even get invisible (like the vanquish in James Bond: Die another day). This would be much more believable, KITT wouldn't change the mass or his interiour when transforming and they could give KITT a more customized dash that identifies him as a super-car.

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I know the JB movie has a lot bigger budget, but those scenes were so much more Knight Rider than the whole new series.
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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby whet » Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:56 am

Well I have no problem with the new Kitt.
What they need is to get rid of this silly Tensions between Micheal and Sarah, and Billy and Zoe, it's very dull.
Focus on Kitt lots more like the 80's series did.
Basicly it needs the wow factor, and at the moment it's far far away from that.

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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby My_Friend_KITT » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:41 pm

I agree with most references to changes done to KI3T, Love the Bond car...That's an idea instead of transformations.

However, I cannot agree with you cerdgee4 on your #7,
KITT can kill people when necesary.

If anyone needs to be killed, have Micheal do it. KI3T is supposed to have the "Preservation of Human Life" Protocol. KI3T can bump 'em, he can bruise 'em, but no kill 'em.

Some of the best scenes in TOS, have KITT pinning "bad guys" and/or hitting them with his door. Would love to see that kind of action in KI3T.

The only way I will relent on this opinion is: KARR.

He will most likely take over KI3T's Mustang body and go into a deathly rampage. That is acceptable. It's KARR after all.
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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby KITT Season 4 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:09 pm

I actually like more transformations. But what more is the turbo boost. Its perfect at night, nice and glowly but hideous during the day. They should redesign turbo boost. And GST mentioned here http://knightrideronline.com/news/2008/ ... k_kitt.php
that they would do a different mode turbo boost:
KRO: Is KITT always going to Turbo Boost in this mode?

GST: No, actually at this point we've only used that mode and for purposes - i'm trying to run through all the scripts in my head to say what we do. Right now, I think we have only done Turbo Boost in this mode.

KRO: In theory the car could Turbo Boost in other modes?

GST: In theory the car can do anything! That is the greatest thing. What is great is because of the way we set it up, the retrofit of the vehicle for whatever is needed. Wherever we are going that week.


I dont want them to back down out of that one.

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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby Kram061-1 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:17 pm

I wouldn't have as much of a problem if they'd limit the transformations at the very least. But they definitely NEED to do more Turbo Boost and stunt/chase sequence scenes. More action. If they'd leave it so KITT could only become Attack Mode or Pickup, I'd say, ok fine, I'm not thrilled, but I can live with that. It's that there is no limit to his transformations that gets so silly, I mean think about it, wouldn't it be silly if he turned into an 18-wheeler or a train or something next episode? You might say I'm stretching it when you read this, but didn't he already become a Submarine, a Van, oh yeah, and whateverthehell that was (Shoe box SUV) In the last episode? I appreciate the pink Mustang due to it's serious purpose, but that's the only exception. This show has become TOO MUCH of a takeoff of "Transformers." Don't you think? The grappling hook, That soundwave thing KITT has, the laser, the voice modulator are all very good things, just a little more vehicular action would be great. And those stupid flirting/sexual tension scenes?? I lose interest with those, and If I do, I'm sure ALOT of others do too. I've stated it several times before, they waste time cause there is no point or evolution in these scenes. They start pointless and end pointless......They wasted a 12 minute or so scene in the series premiere where KITT catches fire for the sole purpose of getting MK and Sarah( who has NO business WHATSOEVER being on ANY MISSIONS ANYWHERE EVER EVER EVER) can get undressed. And 8 episode into the season there is no explanation or further mention on what that missile was all about, and how it could chase Mike Tracuer??? HENCE: No Point!!!! How did that missle lock onto Mike? What was in it that cause the fire to stick to KITT. Am I the only one that noticed this???? Not even that FBI agent, I forget his name, not even him saying "Mike, we're still working on finding out how that missile homed in on you and not KITT?" Anyfriggingthing, but they don't mention anything more about it.

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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby KRAvengerII » Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:58 pm

I'm sorry, but I just have to chime in here and say that it doesn't really bother me to see Sarah tagging along on missions, and even driving KITT- What's always bothered me is we've never seen the how/why of her getting to that point, from her original role of engineer professor.
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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby scorbing » Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:29 pm

All of you who say bring the Hoff back with the old KITT, etc, etc have a hell of an imagination. Listen guys, I love Knight Rider just as much as you all but lets get real here and take a look at the real facts. The real reason why the new Knight Rider is not being succesful at impressing us:

Reason 1

They need to spend more money and shoot the driving scenes on real enviornments. You don't have to have 20/20 vision to notice that the actors have a blue screen effect shot inside the cockpit of KITT on the background as the drive. Back in the old days, the Hoff had a camera put in front of the car and he drove KITT for real, well now its all computer generated road. It sucks and we can tell. Looks cheap and very bad.

Reason 2

They need to get rid of that stupid asian girl and the dorky hacker boy. They are completely useless and stupid. They serve no purpose. They need to put serious characters there. Not funny, stupid, idiotic nerds. KITT is supposed to be a highly classified project and I feel the enviornment there should always be a serious one. The jokes between those two are simply dumb and make everything about the base and KITT look fake.

Reason 3

They need to spend more money on special effects. The transformation thing is cool and can be improved by getting rid of the truck part. The attack mode needs fe-fining. It needs to be re-designed. It looks as fake as the asian girl and the hacker.

Reason 4

They need to give KITT real opponents. A human cannot possibly be an adversary for KITT, only for Michael. If they are going to give Michael opponents, then give KITT an opponent he can come face to face with and get his butt kicked every once in a while. Give KITT oponents like KARR for example. Something he can have a hard time fighting or facing. They need to show us KITT's true powers. We haven't seen any yet except for the transformation part.

Reason 5

Bring back the Hoff andthe old KITT on an episode and have them assist the new KITT and Michael, Jr. Maybe in an episode where KARR comes back and Pontiac KITT comes to help Mustang KITT while both Michaels deal with the bad guys. Again, the stories are getting boring and they have no real opponents to fight with.

As far as Dr. Graiman is concerned, I think he is a VERY important character and he should remain in the series. He has a lot of explaining to do to KITT Mustang and Michael, Jr.

Reason 6

They need to stop the secrecy and finally explain to us (before the series gets cancelled) what Michael Knight, Jr has to do with KARR and the mysteries behind his past.

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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby GNR2K6 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:18 pm

The only thing that can possibly save this show now is by tying it in to the original by bringing back a worthy appearance by Michael Knight Sr. and KI2K. This is what they should of done right in the first place and it might not be tanking as bad and become the joke as it is now. The funny thing is that if somehow they finally get it right by giving the fans what they want to see, after raping so many ideas and references from the original already, how they are going to believeably now explain two Michael Knights running around. It goes to show they had no idea how to make this show work from the start other than just stealing every idea from the original, yet giving us nothing quality from it (KI2K). This show so far has been nothing but a one car version of the disgraceful TKR, and lengthy bad Ford commercial disguised under the name Knight Rider. I know saying this will offend the 3 people that accept this show, but the rest of the fans want something closer to the original. The current in the toilet ratings for this new show speaks for itself no matter how many lame ass excuses some people try to make for it.

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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby PHOENIXZERO » Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:25 pm

EDIT: I disagree that they should have had Hasselhoff and the original KITT from the start, there are several things wrong with the show and why the ratings are what they are, but that isn't close to being an actual reason. The biggest issue has been the terrible writing that made the show a punchline after only the first episode. The show should have been what the 60s Batman is to Batman Begins or even Burton's first Batman, though not nearly as serious or "realistic", at least in the case of BB since Burton's Batman was rather campy and silly in its own right. Instead it makes a lot of people (not just you) miss Hasselhoff and the original KITT even more. I still don't miss either because they haven't done enough yet to warrant the return of them. /EDIT

True Kram, I almost agree with that. I though don't mind some of the Zoe/Billy stuff (past the first episode I started to like a little bit of Zoe's teasing and picking on him) but they seem to do it too much.

KRO: In theory the car could Turbo Boost in other modes?

GST: In theory the car can do anything! That is the greatest thing. What is great is because of the way we set it up, the retrofit of the vehicle for whatever is needed. Wherever we are going that week.


That's basically like what was said of the original KITT when it came to KITT's top speed and how the answer to how fast can the car go was "how fast do you want it to go?".


I started writing this a few hours or so ago with just the usual dislikes and how I'd like them changed along with things I'd want improved and was ending it with mentioning how this kind of topic is rather pointless since they only have a few episodes left to film in this season and that all we can do is hope for the best and if it makes it to a second season, then bring this stuff up if needed.

THEN I went back and started to write a bunch of other crap turning this post into another badly written novel. But screw it, I'm going to spare everyone and save how I'd see and prefer the characters written and the direction of they should go with them, as well as a story arc for KITT that comes out of it.. But the main gist of it was, besides what was already mentioned, with the smaller number of characters I want them to clearly define the ones left over. Make their roles distinct, don't turn Sarah into "Super Sarah" where she can pretty much do everyone's job as well as other characters can or better even though it should be their specialty. Where skills over lap, make one character clearly better than the others, a hierarchy or whatever and write and give each skill a rating, try to balance them out too. Make Zoe and Billy more than what they are now, glorified voyeurs who make bets on what's going to happen. Ugh, I'm doing it again so I better stop here...



Wait a second....


KRO: It's pretty sweet. Did you know we had a leak on the site?

GST: Yea, I knew. I knew. I didn't know which one you got though, or what it looked like, because the spoiler actually comes up and down. It's actually an air brake based on the Bugatti airbrake. So it actually flips up, you'll see it in the first episode 'flip up' to slow it down at a high rate of speed.


Does anyone remember seeing that in A Knight in Shining Armor? O_o
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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Reboot?

Postby Kram061-1 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:38 pm

yeah PhoenixZero, there's been alot of GST making promises he hasn't kept. Sad part is, I don't think anyone wants to take over a tv show and pile drive it into the ground. I think that they thought that "it" worked for other show so why not integrate these concepts into this one too. I didn't realize how much closer the pilot movie was to TOS than this series has been. It HAS taken a big step backwards. I am one of the people that feel that complaining now anymore, although most of us have all along, is too late to improve this current season. I too fell that I am repeating myself until I'm beating a dead horse (or TV Show?), just using different words to describe my feelings every time. Apparently, though, NBC decided on these changes before the full season extension, so that's good, I guess.

Just gotta hope for the best now anymore.

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KRO: It's pretty sweet. Did you know we had a leak on the site?

GST: Yea, I knew. I knew. I didn't know which one you got though, or what it looked like, because the spoiler actually comes up and down. It's actually an air brake based on the Bugatti airbrake. So it actually flips up, you'll see it in the first episode 'flip up' to slow it down at a high rate of speed.


Does anyone remember seeing that in A Knight in Shining Armor? O_o[/quote]



No Pip, I've never once seen anything special about the spoiler in any of the episodes yet. I think it would be a little neat if they added that into the equation of close-up shots, like Turbo Boost's "inside scoop", for example.

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Postby KnightINSTINCT » Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:35 am


KRO: It's pretty sweet. Did you know we had a leak on the site?

GST: Yea, I knew. I knew. I didn't know which one you got though, or what it looked like, because the spoiler actually comes up and down. It's actually an air brake based on the Bugatti airbrake. So it actually flips up, you'll see it in the first episode 'flip up' to slow it down at a high rate of speed.


Does anyone remember seeing that in A Knight in Shining Armor? O_o[/quote]



No Pip, I've never once seen anything special about the spoiler in any of the episodes yet. I think it would be a little neat if they added that into the equation of close-up shots, like Turbo Boost's "inside scoop", for example.


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