Hi I'm new and I have a question about Kitt losing his Shell

[MIKEMAC]

OK, I was watching Knight Rider this weekend after watching Season 1 I decided to watch all my favorites from every season that I have on nasty vhs and I know Kitt's Shell was taken away in Season 4's "Knight of the Jugernaut" and that's why he got Super Pursute Mode cause Bonnie didn't have it and Kitt was only 50% ready. But they never said in any epsiode that I know of that Kitt got his shell back which he had to off cause he was still bullet proff and went through walls and stuff, did he get his shell back later but they just never said? anyone know? Thanks!

[Michael Pajaro]

If the "mac" in your name means "Macintosh" then you get a very special "welcome to the board!" If it means something else, then you get a regular "welcome to the board!" (Mac advocate here)

It's basically assumed that KITT had his shell re-applied at some point after the events of Juggernaut. They might not have had the resources to do it while on the road in Chicago, but it makes sense that back at FLAG headquarters in Los Angeles they could rebuild it.

You're right, it's never brought up during season 4 so we just assume it happened.

[MIKEMAC]

Great, thanks for answering that. I know 3 people new the formula and 1 of them died, but Devon did say if 2 people know it you could make it so hopefully that's what happened. Thanks and no mac is not for mac computers sorry.

[Knight Racer]

What I want to know is in spm mode,is the car still protected by the mbs all over when the side pieces come out?Or is it just when hes in regular mode is in protected?

[Lost Knight]

I've wondered this before too, and thinking it through logically, the extensions still have the MBS. The inner rams that propel these parts out can't have the MBS because they are primarily internal. K.I.T.T. travels so fast in SPM anyway that he does not require the MBS in that mode, hence the reason it was installed in the first place. Therefore the MBS has to break apart into pieces for the transition into SPM. So apparently, the MBS is actually sectional in season 4 when KITT is in Normal mode, only all the sections touch eachother until the transition to SPM. In season 4, the MBS is no longer a single solitary shell.

[TurbomanKnight]

Imagine KITT swiping a wall and ripping off a wing or two. LOL

[Michael Pajaro]

I've wondered this before too, and thinking it through logically, the extensions still have the MBS. The inner rams that propel these parts out can't have the MBS because they are primarily internal. K.I.T.T. travels so fast in SPM anyway that he does not require the MBS in that mode, hence the reason it was installed in the first place. Therefore the MBS has to break apart into pieces for the transition into SPM. So apparently, the MBS is actually sectional in season 4 when KITT is in Normal mode, only all the sections touch eachother until the transition to SPM. In season 4, the MBS is no longer a single solitary shell.

Interesting, but I can throw a wrinkle in it. KITT's windows had the MBS, yet they could be raised and lowered- they were seperate from the rest of the "shell". The MBS is explained as bonding with the metal, but I'm assuming it bonds with glass as well.

My guess is that the extensions have the MBS. Its purpose is to protect the vehicle, and if KITT were in SPM and got hit with bullets or a missile, those extenders would be vulnerable without it.

[MIKEMAC]

That's great thinking as we all agree Kitt got his shell back they just never said it in season 4. The only problem I had with SPM is everytime Kitt used it there was never any cars around especialy in Chicago, yea right, I know it's so there wouldn't be any car accedents but still, it looked chessy lol but still Kitt was never shot at or went through a wall in SPM so we will never know if he had his shell, but we can assume anyways. I just wish that NBC gave Knight Rider a final episode. In my mind, "The Sent of Roses" is the final episode after Stevie died he still didn't want to go back to the foundation, but decided to go back but you could tell he wasn't the same and at the end Kitt and him drive off into the sun, that should have been the last episode.

[cloudkitt]

Well, KITT never did trying to go through a wall in SPM. It'd be pretty funny seem him crash into the wall and come out the other side all stripped down, though. lol

(*cough cough* Mac's suck *cough cough* )

[MIKEMAC]

Well, KITT never did trying to go through a wall in SPM. It'd be pretty funny seem him crash into the wall and come out the other side all stripped down, though. lol

(*cough cough* Mac's suck *cough cough* )

My name MIKEMAC was my nickname as in being cool I guess, not the mac pc, sorry I'm an XP guy myself.

[knightshade]

Interesting, but I can throw a wrinkle in it. KITT's windows had the MBS, yet they could be raised and lowered- they were seperate from the rest of the "shell". The MBS is explained as bonding with the metal, but I'm assuming it bonds with glass as well.

Hmm, I have a wrinkle on that one too. The MBS was impervious to the laser that was used on KARR in TDR, but in KITT vs KARR, they needed to add the special reflectors to the windows to protect Michael. I'd assume that the windows would have had to have the MBS for all the other things they withstood, but in that instance, I thinik it was kind of implied that they had something less than the same MBS used on the rest of his body.

[Antithesis]

Interesting, but I can throw a wrinkle in it. KITT's windows had the MBS, yet they could be raised and lowered- they were seperate from the rest of the "shell". The MBS is explained as bonding with the metal, but I'm assuming it bonds with glass as well.

Hmm, I have a wrinkle on that one too. The MBS was impervious to the laser that was used on KARR in TDR, but in KITT vs KARR, they needed to add the special reflectors to the windows to protect Michael. I'd assume that the windows would have had to have the MBS for all the other things they withstood, but in that instance, I thinik it was kind of implied that they had something less than the same MBS used on the rest of his body.

I'm new here as well, but I didn't think the reflectors were for protection. It was to reflect the laser back to KARR's scanner

[Reissuleipa]

Remember the episode Junkyard Dog? KITT was dumped into that toxic waste puddle and when they towed him out from the puddle the windows were gone but the the shell and tires?!! were intact. So it is not possible that the windows in KITT had MBS, otherwise they wouldn't have been destroyed. Can't explain why the tires weren't destroyed thought.
Also I don't remember KITT driving with it's windows down when it was dumped into that puddle so the windows musn't have MBS! And this happened also after they had reinfrorced KITT's windows to withstand KARR's laser.

[KOPP]

Originally, the MBS was a black metal, and that's why KITT was totally a glossy black; his back lights were blacked-out, his tire hubcabs were black. So KITT's windows aren't protected with the MBS, as they are not black. I'm sure that they were going to paint Goliath black, but didn't have the cash.
The Molecular-Bonded Shell is a poor name for KITT's alloy, as it doesn't refer to the metal itself, but only the way that the alloy is attatched to the skin of the car. They should have called it something like, KITT's Bullet-Proof Alloy, or BPA.

[Lost Knight]

Interesting, but I can throw a wrinkle in it. KITT's windows had the MBS, yet they could be raised and lowered- they were seperate from the rest of the "shell". The MBS is explained as bonding with the metal, but I'm assuming it bonds with glass as well.

In my opinion, the windows never contained the Molecular Bonded Shell. I think they were simply just bullet-proof windows. Only the actual body itself had the MBS....if you notice in "Junk Yard Dog," everything but K.I.T.T.'s shell and tires had been completely eaten up by the acid. The windows had been destroyed because they were not protected with the MBS and therefore the acid was able to get inside KITT's interior. Why the acid destroyed KITT's windows but not his tires which also did not have MBS protection is because the tires were of a different stronger material than the bullet-proof glass (they are at least strong enough to withstand lava and acid). Since the tires are not protected with the MBS, it is logical to assume the windows are not either.

My guess is that the windows are of a separate compound altogether and developed in the same lab as KITT's tires, hence the windows being able to move up and down. When KITT was rebuilt in "Knight Of the Juggernaut," as we know he did not have the protection of the MBS and we know for a fact the replacement glass for the car was ordinary glass. We know the MBS was re-applied off-camera for sure by the episode "Knight Flight To Freedom," so it's safe to assume that KITT's glass and tires were replaced during the process.

The high-tensil reflectors Bonnie developed were just that- reflectors. They reflected the laser back to hit K.A.R.R. in his one weak spot, his scanner. Therefore, the reflectors are useless if they are not used at just the right angle. In "K.I.T.T. vs. K.A.R.R.," KITT actually took a direct hit from KARR's laser without the reflectors. He said "I can't take another blow like that" but we know KITT could still withstand the laser's effect at least once. So, that aspect is still consistent with "Trust Doesn't Rust" at least.

As for KITT being in Super Pursuit Mode in Chicago, he can't hit anything because his A.I. prevents the car from having a collision unless it is intentional, therefore Michael would have a hard time having a car accident in SPM. The lack of cars in a city was unrealistic though. As I see it, the grey rams are not protected with the MBS because they are retractable, and given the speed of SPM, Bonnie probably did not care as much for applying the MBS to them since KITT can evade everything in that mode, as it worked in "Knight Of the Juggernaut."

[cloudkitt]

If I remember correctly, in JunkYard Dog-yes his windows were gone, but so were his T-tops, which ARE black.

So, by Lost Knight's logic (that the windows were made of an entirely different, -almost- equally powerful material), KITT's T-tops were also made of this window material? Now, in later season's, the T-tops drew back into nothingness, however much sense that makes. But in the earlier seasons, they could still have been MBS as they just open like the doors.

[Lost Knight]

The T-top is also the same glass as the rest of the car regardless of where it retracts to, only tinted. They aren't quite black but more of a smoke fade. And let's not forget about K.I.T.T. in Convertible Mode, where his shell also must slightly break down so that the roof can retract into the trunk. I figure KITT is maybe around 80% protected by the Molecular Bonded Shell when he's in Super Pursuit Mode or Convertible Mode.

[Lost Knight]

Originally, the MBS was a black metal, and that's why KITT was totally a glossy black; his back lights were blacked-out, his tire hubcabs were black. So KITT's windows aren't protected with the MBS, as they are not black.

Well I think you're partially correct here, KOPP. The Molecular Bonded Shell is not a metal, as Devon states in the pilot episode. In "Knight Of the Juggernaut," the chemical sprayed all over K.I.T.T. neutralized the shell which is bonded on top of the car's ordinary metal underneath. I always think of the MBS as kind of the equivalent of polyurithane over a wooden surface. It protects the wood and makes it shiney, but it is not the actual wood that is being touched.

But yes, I do agree that it is the MBS that makes KITT a constant gloss black and also helps keep KITT clean by not holding much dust or dirt. Also I don't agree that the MBS makes everything blacked out, all I believe the MBS does appearance-wise is make KITT glossy. It is a transparent shell, not a black shell. KITT is blacked out primarily to cover up Pontiac Firebird logos and make the car appear more ominous.

[winwolf07]

I could just picture the damage a bug would do to SPM bits @ 300mph....

[AprilCurtis]

wasn't knight of the juggernaut the episode where kitt got sprayed with that stuff to make his shell defective? if it is, i've always wondered, wouldn't Kitt have been able to tell what the stuff was, or that his shell wasn't at full whack?! What you think?

[HondaSiR]

Yup, that was the episode. A sprinkler truck passed by KITT and sprayed him with the stuff. KITT had no idea it was to dismantle his MBS and he learned it too late when the juggernaut was already upon them. I would guess it just caught him off-guard at the time of the sprinkling (KITT even closed his driver-side window in order to keep the interior dry).

[AprilCurtis]

yeh i remember him doing that! i guess Michael didn'tleave him in surveillance mode or tell him to 'keep your scanner peeled' !

[Skav]

there's plenty of examples of that, mainly in Scent of Roses when kitt should have detected Durant coming in to kill michael.